Industrial vs. Craft

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Not sure if I understand what your saying but it sounds very interesting, can you clarify are you saying that AMFA members voted to not fund arbitration to save a Members job so he is going to be fired without representation ?

No AMFA knows better..... they will represent them, its just they (the terminated member) will have to pay for it.
 
Yet another horsefly complaining about people being mean. What are you clowns? You guys sound more like your typical sniveling wimps from them waste of time and money Employee Resource Groups. Better yet, maybe you could start a new support group - "Victims of BB Bullies". I suspect another alias for raptortool.

I am a firm believer that people who accuse others of doing things do so because they are doing the very thing that they are accusing, Unlike you I have no need to hide who I am so that I can attack people because you have nothing that's actually relevant to say, btw I reported your post & will continue to do so.

If your not interested in what this Man has to say then please leave him alone so the rest of us can hear what he has to say !!
I for one do not want him bullied from behind a keyboard into being silent, I definitely know your not the same in person as you are behind a keyboard !!
Your a real tough guy when hiding behind a keyboard ...... What do you think Big Mac am I right about this guy ?
 
No AMFA knows better..... they will represent them, its just they (the terminated member) will have to pay for it.

Your kidding me !!! can you provide proof of this ? If you can then I definitely will be putting the word out to Not sign an AMFA card, it's hard for me to believe that any Union that collects dues could get away with this, please provide proof that this is actually happening & point to where it says in the AMFA bylaws that they can do this as well.

I this is true Steve this is a big deal & needs to be known by ALL.
 
I am a firm believer that people who accuse others of doing things do so because they are doing the very thing that they are accusing, Unlike you I have no need to hide who I am so that I can attack people because you have nothing that's actually relevant to say, btw I reported your post & will continue to do so.

If your not interested in what this Man has to say then please leave him alone so the rest of us can hear what he has to say !!
I for one do not want him bullied from behind a keyboard into being silent, I definitely know your not the same in person as you are behind a keyboard !!
Your a real tough guy when hiding behind a keyboard ...... What do you think Big Mac am I right about this guy ?

Dan McCoy

Are you trying to bully me? It looks like it to me. On top of that, it appears you're a tattle tale as well.
 
Are you trying to bully me? It looks like it to me. On top of that, it appears you're a tattle tale as well.

I gotta cool off, People who are tough when Hiding behind an Alias & a keyboard really bother me.
Have you every noticed that there are some people that you just know have never served their country as a soldier just by the way they act, attacking someone while hiding behind a keyboard and an Alias is about as honorable as stealing a babies rattle, A soldier would never do it so it turns my stomach when I see it, reminds me of someone who was a 75lb geek in high school & everyone beat him up so now that he can hide behind the safety of a keyboard & an Alias he is gonna get back at all those guys that were tough in real life by attacking people from behind a keyboard.

What's your real Name ??? You have mine stop hiding & tell us who your really are.
 
I call bullshet on this type of representation, our members within the TWU are entitled to their day in court if they so choose....Unbelievable, the ugly truths about the AMFA :blink:
Now hold on a second. I think this argument needs to get in the right perspective.

It sounds like AMFA and the TWU work similarly. The TWU Grievance Committee at the Local, reviews a grievance for merit. Did the issue violate the contract? Is the enough evidence to support the case? Is there past practice or precedent regarding the alleged violation. I am sure AMFA must go through a similar process. If the TWU does not believe the grievance has merit they will set up the arbitration date for the grievant to argue his case at his/her own expense.

It sounds as if AMFA does the same thing I believe Craig just worded it a bit differently. If they did not take a grievance forward that had merit they would open themselves up to a DFR.
 
It's interesting how quick people are to jump on AMFA because of something an unverified poster says without any verification. To me it only means one thing. 109 pages of conversation and not one person that doesn't want AMFA has anything bad to say, now they hear one unverified thing and they rush around it like it's the first drop of water they had in months.

It only proves how good AMFA actually is.
 
Now hold on a second. I think this argument needs to get in the right perspective.

It sounds like AMFA and the TWU work similarly. The TWU Grievance Committee at the Local, reviews a grievance for merit. Did the issue violate the contract? Is the enough evidence to support the case? Is there past practice or precedent regarding the alleged violation. I am sure AMFA must go through a similar process. If the TWU does not believe the grievance has merit they will set up the arbitration date for the grievant to argue his case at his/her own expense.

It sounds as if AMFA does the same thing I believe Craig just worded it a bit differently. If they did not take a grievance forward that had merit they would open themselves up to a DFR.

Wait your telling me that if someone got fired not something like bypassed on overtime or something that the TWU would not pay the expenses to represent him in Arbitration to get his job back for any reason ??? For example he got caught sleeping or fighting or whatever
 
Now hold on a second. I think this argument needs to get in the right perspective.

It sounds like AMFA and the TWU work similarly. The TWU Grievance Committee at the Local, reviews a grievance for merit. Did the issue violate the contract? Is the enough evidence to support the case? Is there past practice or precedent regarding the alleged violation. I am sure AMFA must go through a similar process. If the TWU does not believe the grievance has merit they will set up the arbitration date for the grievant to argue his case at his/her own expense.

It sounds as if AMFA does the same thing I believe Craig just worded it a bit differently. If they did not take a grievance forward that had merit they would open themselves up to a DFR.

In my experience I have never heard of, or been part of, a case where the burden lied upon the member to fund their own arbitration hearing. These hearings are entitlements to our members and paid for by the local if they choose to go forward unless your aware of something that has happened outside my local that I'm unaware of...Now this would be for members in good standing those who may be dues objectors may face the burden of securing their own representation...
 
Your kidding me !!! can you provide proof of this ? If you can then I definitely will be putting the word out to Not sign an AMFA card, it's hard for me to believe that any Union that collects dues could get away with this, please provide proof that this is actually happening & point to where it says in the AMFA bylaws that they can do this as well.

I this is true Steve this is a big deal & needs to be known by ALL.



AMFA Constitution 2009. page 107 section 10
 
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