Industrial vs. Craft

[Brain]

Ignorant/unprofessional??? Was going to ask why, but instead I'm sorry you feel that way. For all you AA folks look at the big picture before you jump. It's your future. Take a nite, go online and get the facts.

 

[2ndGENAMT]

You don't understand!! We have been a witness to the big picture for our entire careers and we know the facts which is the reason for this debate in the first place!!

 

[TWU informer]

Ignorant/unprofessional??? Was going to ask why, but instead I'm sorry you feel that way. For all you AA folks look at the big picture before you jump. It's your future. Take a nite, go online and get the facts.

I have been getting the facts on the internet every night for over 15 years now.

I am ready to VOTE and will vote for AMFA when I get my ballot.

"Not seeing the big picture" has been a staple comment from the TWU's going to save us from ourselves gang for years. Thanks for using that one and blending yourself well with that crowd.

 

[OldGuy@AA]

In other words, we either ALL get into one union, or we will forever be divided and conquered.

This would be extremely hard to do, but it is the honest truth.

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

Ignorant/unprofessional??? Was going to ask why, but instead I'm sorry you feel that way. For all you AA folks look at the big picture before you jump. It's your future. Take a nite, go online and get the facts.

Yes, ignorant/unprofessional.

Your post again...

NWA did not break or try to....AMFA did that on there own.

Where in your "big picture" do you come off with NWA didn't prepare or try to break AMFA?

You're either ignorant of the facts, or unprofessional for trying to peddle your distorted version of history.

 

[Raptorman49]

Ignorant/unprofessional??? Was going to ask why, but instead I'm sorry you feel that way. For all you AA folks look at the big picture before you jump. It's your future. Take a nite, go online and get the facts.

I don't think your Ignorant or unprofessional & I thank you for your input, feel free to express your opinion those who disagree can feel free to respectfully ignore you & believe their version of the truth.

 

[Buck]

I was invited to visit the CAM Building tonight.

I was told that the whole building was a haven of the Teamsters,that that the Teamsters logo/signs would be all over the place.

I would say that about 95% I saw was AMFA , 4% TWU and 1% Teamsters.

I guess the Teamsters are on day shift?

 

[xUT]

NWA did not break or try to....AMFA did that on there own.

Better change your nom de plume as you are certainly no 'brain' try 'brainless' better form/fit/function.
You twu/ibt cultists continue to amaze me as to your convoluted logic, disinformation and lies.
Nuff Said!
B) xUT

 

[xUT]

Ironic that you choose to chide another on professionalism, when you claim to be an AMFA member yet post ignorant/UNprofessional statements like this...

As someone said, You just can't fix stupid!
B) xUT

 

[Raptorman49]

I was invited to visit the CAM Building tonight.

I was told that the whole building was a haven of the Teamsters,that that the Teamsters logo/signs would be all over the place.

I would say that about 95% I saw was AMFA , 4% TWU and 1% Teamsters.

I guess the Teamsters are on day shift?

Guess so I haven't been on Afternoon shift in 20 years, so really couldn't say what happens on afternoon shift, I didn't even know the cam building had an afternoon shift, my shop hasn't for about 20 years anyway.
While traveling the base today I ran into several other Teamsters, the door shop is almost completely Teamsters .... didn't know that till today & a couple others, noticed you have some Teamsters on your Dock too Buck. B)
Guess we will know how it turns out in about 12 months, I suspect employee's driving by the new billboard everyday & seeing Teamsters for AA will have some impact, I for one hope AMFA can get enough cards for an Election cause I think that would be great for A&P Mechanics but with the Teamsters impeccable card drive i'm just not seeing much AMFA support.

 

[Raptorman49]

Better change your nom de plume as you are certainly no 'brain' try 'brainless' better form/fit/function.
You twu/ibt cultists continue to amaze me as to your convoluted logic, disinformation and lies.
Nuff Said!
B) xUT

So what was the question & how was your post beneficial ?? Verbally attack the guy for giving his opinion & that will convince him he's wrong or convince us we should support your cause because that's where the professionals like yourself are ??
Seem's to me he was the one keeping it professional & not attacking anyone for having a different opinion, real people tend to like that type of attitude but hey just keep attacking people who don't think exactly like you do & see how well that works for your cause, especially while your trying to collect cards that's a great approach .... better hope a civil Teamster organizer doesn't follow behind you with cards though.
No one likes a bully who pouts & acts up because he doesn't get his way.

 

[Raptorman49]

As someone said, You just can't fix stupid!
B) xUT

Wow you have such Intelligent things to say, very impressive does that work on the Ladies too ??

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

So what was the question & how was your post beneficial ?? Verbally attack the guy for giving his opinion & that will convince him he's wrong or convince us we should support your cause because that's where the professionals like yourself are ??
Seem's to me he was the one keeping it professional & not attacking anyone for having a different opinion, real people tend to like that type of attitude but hey just keep attacking people who don't think exactly like you do & see how well that works for your cause, especially while your trying to collect cards that's a great approach .... better hope a civil Teamster organizer doesn't follow behind you with cards though.
No one likes a bully who pouts & acts up because he doesn't get his way.

A question for you Raptorman, do you condone lies and or distortions of the truth?

Here is Brains post that is the basis of this thread offshoot...

NWA did not break or try to....AMFA did that on there own.

Another question, do you view this statement as accurate?

Do you believe as Brain states, that NWA didn't break AMFA or try to break them?

 

[Brain]

I have been getting the facts on the internet every night for over 15 years now.

I am ready to VOTE and will vote for AMFA when I get my ballot.

"Not seeing the big picture" has been a staple comment from the TWU's going to save us from ourselves gang for years. Thanks for using that one and blending yourself well with that crowd.

 

[Raptorman49]

A question for you Raptorman, do you condone lies and or distortions of the truth?

Here is Brains post that is the basis of this thread offshoot...



Another question, do you view this statement as accurate?

Do you believe as Brain states, that NWA didn't break AMFA or try to break them?

I wasn't there so all my info is second hand, I don't know if he said he was there when it happened or not but from his statement to me it sounds more like his opinion & not something that could be quantified as fact.
From what I know AMFA voted to strike then went on strike during a strike both Union & company are under self help & can do as they see fit to remedy the situation to their liking, The Union chose to withhold their services & the company chose to replace them & was able to do so, sometime you win & sometimes you lose that is the nature of the game, losing in a strike doesn't in and of itself break the Union, AMFA was still there after the strike, I don't know the details on how they ended up being de certified.
I wouldn't say that from his statement he is purposely Lying rather that he see's it from a different perspective.