IAM - TWU should split work force

[swamt]

I advise all of you that are getting wrapped up in this thread to do your own investigation on this subject, and that doesn't mean listening to either the IAM or TWU.

None of the information on the so called balloting of this would-be election that has so far been put forward is definitive. As of right now IT CAN'T BE.

Until there is a completed merger, there can't be an investigation into a Single Transportation System or STS.

Until there is a completed NMB STS investigation there cannot be an election.

If/When the NMB STS investigation is complete, AND the merged carriers are considered a STS for the class and craft in question, then there is a window for intervenors to file a showing of interest and be added to the ballot.

I have been asking the same. Some people are too lazy and just wanna believe what they hear. YES I too don't want anyone to believe me either, DO YOUR OWN INVESTIGATION OF ALL THE FACTS, get everything confirmed, ask the unions to put it in writing, if they say they cannot "IT IS NOT TRUE" this is exactly what we did at SWA when we were getting ready to fire the teamsters, they would NEVER put anything in writing of all their promises. "MAKE THE TWU AND IAM PUT EVERYTHING THEY PROMISE IN WRITING" You guys will be amazed at how they will back step big time----Trust me... And BTW; Get off your a$$es and do what I did, contact the NMB and ask all kinds of questions, you will soon find out what your union is telling you and what 700 is telling all of us is all BS as they don't want you guys to know what all your options are, they just want to use the scare tactics. Carry on gentlemen. Get up and involved or lay down and get what you deserve, PERIOD!!!

 

[700UW]

5. Q: Will I have the opportunity to vote on whether or not I am represented by the Association?

A: Yes. Following the completion of the American – US Airways’ merger, the Associations will file representation applications with the National Mediation Board (NMB), a federal agency, which will culminate in three separate elections, one for each of the Mechanic & Related, Fleet Service and Stores classifications. You will vote in the election of the classification in which you work with others from both carriers.

And the IAM has stated since, it will be yes for the association, no for no union and the type in or speak in option, no one has ever said anything different.

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

They have a better option than the "write-in" keep the AMFA cards signed at AA, start collecting at US.

If there is no merger, file again in a year at AA - AMFA on the ballot.

If there is a merger, after STS is announced AMFA can file cards(50% + 1 of the combined group) in the intervenor window and be ON THE BALLOT.

 

[swamt]

And the IAM has stated since, it will be yes for the association, no for no union and the type in or speak in option, no one has ever said anything different.

BS!! You have stated different from the first time I asked. You stated options as follows; Yes for the assoc., No for no union, and "OTHER" not nothing about an option to write-in or speak-in until after I received my info from the NMB. With your "OTHER" response to my original post is what triggered my entire investigation into this issue as "OTHER" is very vague, and deceptive, as I have always said this must be the write-in and speak-in option that the IAM and TWU DOES NOT want the members to know about as they know AMFA could and more than likely will be written in and remove both the IAM from US and the TWU from AA all in one freakin vote, now how great would that be...LOL.

 

[700UW]

Other is what I meant by "type in" or "speak in"

 

[swamt]

They have a better option than the "write-in" keep the AMFA cards signed at AA, start collecting at US.

If there is no merger, file again in a year at AA - AMFA on the ballot.

If there is a merger, after STS is announced AMFA can file cards(50% + 1 of the combined group) in the intervenor window and be ON THE BALLOT.

I do agree with you here. Not trying to force the "Employee Asoc. election just still trying to correct all the lies and bull #### from the unions trying to save their asses from AMFA coming in, which is exactly what they are doing and what the TWU, ibt and the company did at AA. Yes, keep the card collections going, rather the NMB allows AMFA to submit prior to the one year or not, AMFA will get in...

 

[swamt]

Other is what I meant by "type in" or "speak in"

Then why did you never answer my original question on what "OTHER" meant? Look back and you will see. I originally said the members should have a choice to write in any union they want, could be any union at all like AMFA right? or TWU? or IAM? Right??

 

[john john]

Other is what I meant

confuse

 

[700UW]

Other is what I meant by "type in" or "speak in"

confuse

Wow, such a great contribution to the discussion, and stop selectively posting, use my whole post.

 

[john john]

confuse

I did not mean you I meet the membership

 

[700UW]

There is nothing to be confused about, the full alliance paperwork is available to all, they were handed out to the membership, and they are online for all to see, along with a Q&A are all online.

 

[swamt]

I did not mean you I meet the membership

I know what you mean. And yes it is all a game they are playing to keep the membership confused, or scare tactics to get them to vote for the alliance as they call it now, or else you guys will be non-union. It's pathetic how these two unions have to lie and cheat their membership, and then blackmail them into staying with the alliance. Very sad indeed, but speaks volumes of yet another "tactic" to try and keep AMFA out.

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

Just keep the cards signed and you don't have to worry about it.

Minus a completed merger, in just under a year, AMFA can file and be on the ballot.

If a merger is completed, and you have at least 50% + 1 of the combined group, then you can file as an intervenor after STS is declared, and still get on the ballot.

 

[swamt]

Just keep the cards signed and you don't have to worry about it.

Minus a completed merger, in just under a year, AMFA can file and be on the ballot.

If a merger is completed, and you have at least 50% + 1 of the combined group, then you can file as an intervenor after STS is declared, and still get on the ballot.

Let's not forget the possibility of the NMB forgoing the one year term of filing again if AMFA's appeal is successful. I would think with the written statements from the teamster organizers, and the collusion between company, ibt and TWU, as the NMB even knows that AA supplied eligibility list in record timing with the TWU and ibt. I know, anything could still go with the NMB, but I would be willing to bet this is the best evidence any union has provided when filing for an appeal of the one year term, and that is, IF it's ever been protested before. Your right about keeping the cards signed and updated. The one year (if needed) is right around the corner. Just hope to hear good news from the appeal...

 

[TRAVIS]

BS!! You have stated different from the first time I asked. You stated options as follows; Yes for the assoc., No for no union, and "OTHER" not nothing about an option to write-in or speak-in until after I received my info from the NMB. With your "OTHER" response to my original post is what triggered my entire investigation into this issue as "OTHER" is very vague, and deceptive, as I have always said this must be the write-in and speak-in option that the IAM and TWU DOES NOT want the members to know about as they know AMFA could and more than likely will be written in and remove both the IAM from US and the TWU from AA all in one freakin vote, now how great would that be...LOL.

NOW SWAMT 700 WOULD NEVER TWIST OR MISLEAD ANYONE LOL!!!!!

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