I.A.M VS I.B.T

[awausairtech]

With each post you make yourself an even bigger fool.

Professional IAM BS ARTIST IS ALL WE SEE, Half the truth, Misleading the facts, twisting the words.

QUOTE(700UW)
It works the same the three previous mergers, the HP AMTs will be transitioned to the IAM/CBA and there will be negotiations between the company and the union to sure up the difference between the two contracts and hopefully improve the IAM CBA.
Misleading info. (SEE hopefully improve) WHAT I SEE: NEGOTIATIONS TILL 2009.
QUOTE (700UW
Go read the RLA and the NMB policies.
When AMFA beat the IAM at NWA and UAL, the IAM/CBA remained in effect until the amendable date.
When AMFA beat the ibt at WN, the ibt CBA remained in effect until the amendable date.
When the PFAA beat the ibt at NWA the ibt CBA remained in effect until the amendable date.
Half Truth info with a Mislead on the facts.
(The IBT contract is Amendable NOW) This is unlike ALL the other mergers or accusations that the old USAIRWAYS went through and other AIRLINES or Unions.

QUOTE (700UW)
How many times do you have to be told your ibt CBA will be going bye bye?
Half Truth with a Twist
(Only if there is no vote or WE THE IBT loses the vote.)

Professional IAM BS ARTIST IS ALL WE SEE, Half the truth, Misleading the facts, twisting the words.


1. Single carrier status has NOT been declared. (The Truth)
2. The cards are being collected to force a vote. (The Truth)
3. When and if there are enough cards to force a vote PER 19.6 before or within the 30 DAY DEAD LINE. The vote will take place and then the representing union will be declared. (The Truth)
4. If the IBT wins the Vote before or within the 30 day dead line. EAST will stay under IAM contract until the NEW IBT contract. The WEST IBT WILL STAY UNDER THE CURRENT IBT contract. (Truth)
5. If the IBT wins the vote EAST will go under the NEW contract that is AMENDABLE at this time when it is RATIFIED after single carrier rule OR if the company is willing to for go the wait and let the EAST in the contract before single carrier. (Truth)

LET THE TRUTH HIT YOU IN THE FACE, PUSH YOUR NOSE IN PINCCHIO.
An even bigger fool will stay with that IAM contract.

 

[awausairtech]

QUOTE(Docker) A question on IAM dues. The way I understand it the dues if computed on your August wages. Then adjusted in January of the following year. In CLT we use the weighted average per classification. So why then has our dues not went down in the past two years? $24.25 is still being taken out twice a month.

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[delldude]

awausairtech Posted Today, 01:18 AM
Go read the RLA and the NMB policies.
When AMFA beat the IAM at NWA and UAL, the IAM/CBA remained in effect until the amendable date.
When AMFA beat the ibt at WN, the ibt CBA remained in effect until the amendable date.
When the PFAA beat the ibt at NWA the ibt CBA remained in effect until the amendable date.
Half Truth info with a Mislead on the facts.

half truth?? its what you've been told time and time again and have argued to the contrary....now you finally admit what we've been telling you. so who's been selling half truths now?

Half Truth info with a Mislead on the facts.
(The IBT contract is Amendable NOW) This is unlike ALL the other mergers or accusations that the old USAIRWAYS went through and other AIRLINES or Unions.

you are correct as the IBT contract being amendable at this time,what you fail to tell everyone that under the RLA it too could very well still be under negotiation by 2009. (nice omission)

1. Single carrier status has NOT been declared.

but the groundwork has been laid by US Airways and a decision is expected by the end of January.

2. The cards are being collected to force a vote.

the only way a vote will commence is after single carrier is granted and from your admissions this likelyhood of a vote seems uncertain due to the lack of cards sent in. your own words again: When and if there are enough cards if-if-if

If the IBT wins the Vote before or within the 30 day dead line.

go read your rules again ace..they have within 30 to file for a runoff.

If the IBT wins the vote EAST will go under the NEW contract that is AMENDABLE at this time when it is RATIFIED after single carrier rule

but more than likely to drag on until well after the march 2009 deadline of the IAM contract due to RLA .

once again in your own words you admit to more distortions and misinformation.

ONCE AGAIN A BIG THANK YOU FROM THE GUYS AT IAM INTERNATIONAL

 

[awausairtech]

Professional IAM BS ARTIST IS ALL WE SEE, Half the truth, Misleading the facts, twisting the words.
IS THIS THE BEST THE IAM CAN DO TO HIDE THAT A## WIPE OF A CONTRACT AND BACK DOOR DEALING SCAB UNION.
TWIST THEM WORDS AND MISLEAD WE ALL SEE IT.

 

[delldude]

Professional IAM BS ARTIST IS ALL WE SEE, Half the truth, Misleading the facts, twisting the words.
IS THIS THE BEST THE IAM CAN DO TO HIDE THAT A## WIPE OF A CONTRACT AND BACK DOOR DEALING SCAB UNION.
TWIST THEM WORDS AND MISLEAD WE ALL SEE IT.

c'mon guy...lets have some actual factual instead of smears,accusations and inuendo's.
this professionalism is what they teach at IBT??

duh,vode eye bee tee or owl brake bofe ure legs...

 

[700UW]

He is the one posting misinformation and outrite lies, and cant post a fact to save his life.

All he does is hurl insults as he knows he has been called out and shown to be a liar.

 

[awausairtech]

Here is a fact for you MR-700!
LET THE TRUTH HIT YOU IN THE FACE, PUSH YOUR NOSE IN PINCCHIO.
An even bigger FOOL will stay with that IAM contract and the IAM.


AND ALSO MORE AND MORE CARDS!!!!LOL

 

[AIRWOMAN]

Here is a fact for you MR-700!
LET THE TRUTH HIT YOU IN THE FACE, PUSH YOUR NOSE IN PINCCHIO.
An even bigger FOOL will stay with that IAM contract and the IAM.
AND ALSO MORE AND MORE CARDS!!!!LOL

And the BIGGEST FOOL would be the one that doesn't vote. :unsure:

 

[delldude]

And the BIGGEST FOOL would be the one that doesn't vote. :unsure:

A/W you have hit the nail on the head regarding concerns in the big east over a vote....we got all kinds apathy here for your vote....proceed with caution!

you can say all you want but thats the way membership has been for over 10 years......no one has time.

 

[AIRWOMAN]

A/W you have hit the nail on the head regarding concerns in the big east over a vote....we got all kinds apathy here for your vote....proceed with caution!

you can say all you want but thats the way membership has been for over 10 years......no one has time.

ap·a·thy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (p-th)
n.
Lack of interest or concern, especially regarding matters of general importance or appeal; indifference.
Lack of emotion or feeling; impassiveness.

Hmmmm.......this does not compute.......in my mind anyway. Really now, how long would it take to dial the phone and push a button or buttons to vote?? I know for sure, that us way out in the west have touch tone phones so the east surely has them too.

Can you explain why this is so?? My wondering mind would like to know. :unsure:

 

[delldude]

Lack of interest or concern, especially regarding matters of general importance or appeal; indifference.

its a 'burgh thing
actually,lack of participation is noticed on a national level in most union circles....somewhat of a phenomena especially when successful participation reaps benefits to all who come.
why this lackluster thing? hard to tell.times have changed...people should be required to read union history as it seems we are heading back into the scenarios that our forefathers found neccessary to fight and organize.it will most likely get worse with a national average of union participation around 12%.
check my statements,they are supported.



one of many verifiable sources

and another

All states in the Middle Atlantic and Pacific divisions
again reported union membership rates above the national average, while
all states in the East South Central and West South Central divisions
continued to have rates below it. The states in the Mountain division
also recorded union membership rates at or below that of the U.S.

 

[AIRWOMAN]

its a 'burgh thing

As in PIT

 

[Bird Doctor]

He is the one posting misinformation and outrite lies, and cant post a fact to save his life.

All he does is hurl insults as he knows he has been called out and shown to be a liar.

Pinocchio
Mechanics vote, are you ready 700UW Dec 21 2005, 09:04 PM Post #2 And how many times does it have to be told that a change in representation does not open the CBA?

READ links please:
http://www.usaviation.com/forums/index.php...ndpost&p=340294
http://www.usaviation.com/forums/index.php...ndpost&p=339635

Pinocchio You are the one who Rants if you and Delldude didn't reply to our post there would be no IAM post. The 4 threads that are hot right now:
Your Choise, IBT / IAM
I.A.M VS I.B.T
Mechanics vote
IAM Do they fight for your jobs or work?
Go back and look and see just how memy times you two posted/ranted the facts are out and you have been shown the facts. Is funny when you get shown up cause you go and hide for awile. All we have ever asked for is facts and linkes to them is that to hard for you to do?????

 

[700UW]

Hey Bird Brain,

YOu are wrong once again. Go look at history and precedent and how the NMB has ruled.

 

[Bird Doctor]

spin it anyway you wish bird brain......NMB will grant single carrier status to the MERGER and there will be no vote.

Dude
as you can see there are different types of merger
n. 1) in corporate law, the joining together of two corporations in which one corporation transfers all of its assets to the other, which continues to exist. In effect one corporation "swallows" the other, but the shareholders of the swallowed company receive shares of the surviving corporation. A merger is distinguished from a "consolidation," in which both companies join together to create a new corporation. 2) in real property law, when an owner of an interest in property acquires a greater or lesser interest in the same property, the two interests become one. Examples: a person with a life estate is given the title to the property by inheritance, the life estate is merged with the titled interest. 3) another important form of merger occurs when a person acquires two parcels of land which were once a single lot that had been divided into two lots by a "lot split" granted by the city or county. If the minimum lot size has been increased by changes in local ordinances and the two lots are now sub-standard size, the buyer who acquires title in the two lots may find that they are "merged" into one lot and he or she has lost the right to build a house on each lot. To avoid this problem, the buyer should make sure title in each lot is obtained under a different name, i.e. husband taking one, and wife the other.

Why do you say there will be no vote?