Feb / Mar 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Black Swan]

Proves that you are out of arguments.

You have whined, cheated, attempted to steal seniority and broken your word.

You have droned on for years all day about your perceived injustice. Just be glad you have your health and a job. I have never seen anyone this wrapped up so tight in my life. You must be a joy to be around.

 

[mrbreeze]

Proves that you are out of arguments.

You have whined, cheated, attempted to steal seniority and broken your word.

Not out of arguments, just tired of your adolescent, disrespectful attitude, kid.
breeze

 

[mrbreeze]

I am outta here for the night guys. My apologizes for any offensive language.

breeze

 

[traderjake]

"On behalf of all of the East employees who have spent most of their lives on this job......go **** yourself, junior."

What a jerk, you don't speak for me.

 

[mrbreeze]

What a jerk, you don't speak for me.

Yeah, I don't speak up for traitors.

 

[Claxon]

Proves that you are out of arguments.

You have whined, cheated, attempted to steal seniority and broken your word.

How could anyone steal seniority from a 2002 hire? You will have to earn your seniority the old fashioned way, you will have to earn it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAMRXqQXemU

 

[Claxon]

What YOU brought to this merger my rotund, hypertensive amigo was an UNEMPLOYMENT check and 1878 other unemployed pilots! No. You can keep that, we've never been interested in paying for your failures.

See you in court...where we will snap the neck of your scab union.

Talk to APA, American Pilots Union. Tell them you are Phoenix based.

"Not hiring. AMR is recalling furloughed pilots at a rate of 50 pilots/mo., expecting to be through the list by May/June. Possible hiring by summer. No changes expected in recalls due to merger announcement with US Airways. Final ex-TWA pilot has been notified of recall, now down to 'native' AA pilots hired after the AA-TWA merger.

1,685 furloughed pilots, of which 650 have yet to be offered recall. The rest have deferred recall."

 

[Claxon]

Sure. The most profitable that must be why us airways filed BK twice.

America West Emerges From Bankruptcy


"Chapter 11 reorganization with the closing of a $244.9-million cash-and-loan investment from AmWest Partners, which includes Ft. Worth attorney David Bonderman, Continental Airlines, Mesa Airlines"

http://articles.lati...a-west-airlines

 

[Claxon]

Good day, mate.

http://www.vision.net.au/~apaterson/aviation/pd89_document.htm

 

[Claxon]

How is Eddie Chandler doing? Any updates? If it was not for guys like america west pilots Chandler and Daley saving the Australian airline industry, they might of had to hire back the pilots that walked off who were trying to pursue better pay and improved life style. Let us call this corporate culture induced conduct.

 

[snapthis]

Author: William Swelbar
From: US and American and the elephants in the room.

Of course Kirby thinks merging will solve US’s current integration problems. The USAPA pilots are salivating over new planes, APA’s high pay rates and benefits and the chance at more international routes. They’ll happily staple APA to the bottom of the seniority list to get those perks.

Perhaps APA president David Bates really believes the former America West pilots will just give way to the APA’s claims on seniority. He met with USAPA pilots in Charlotte last month and touted the meeting as a beginning of negotiations to resolve the issue.

I don’t believe any “negotiations” are going to resolve this issue quickly or simply… and I see no way APA members come out of this scenario better in the long-term. Union solidarity only goes so far and US pilots have been waiting years for an opportunity like this.

More telling I thought was a quote in The Charlotte Observer from USAPA president Gary Hummell:

"My job, even though we are looking forward to a cooperative effort, is to protect USAPA pilots (and) to ensure our pilots get the best contract they can."

Even if that means it’s at the expense of the APA. Even if this means making American out to be a failing carrier.

Swelbar got it right in 2012.

 

[Claxon]

Author: William Swelbar
From: US and American and the elephants in the room.

Of course Kirby thinks merging will solve US's current integration problems. The USAPA pilots are salivating over new planes, APA's high pay rates and benefits and the chance at more international routes. They'll happily staple APA to the bottom of the seniority list to get those perks.

Perhaps APA president David Bates really believes the former America West pilots will just give way to the APA's claims on seniority. He met with USAPA pilots in Charlotte last month and touted the meeting as a beginning of negotiations to resolve the issue.

I don't believe any "negotiations" are going to resolve this issue quickly or simply… and I see no way APA members come out of this scenario better in the long-term. Union solidarity only goes so far and US pilots have been waiting years for an opportunity like this.

More telling I thought was a quote in The Charlotte Observer from USAPA president Gary Hummell:

"My job, even though we are looking forward to a cooperative effort, is to protect USAPA pilots (and) to ensure our pilots get the best contract they can."

Even if that means it's at the expense of the APA. Even if this means making American out to be a failing carrier.

Swelbar got it right in 2012.

American pilots will have what they brought to the merger, US Airways East pilots want only what they brought to the merger. You Phoenix pilots unfortunately will have what you brought to the merger, PHX based planes and routes.

An article of one mans opinion, dissected and misquoted for your own needs.

The original article of Mr Swelbar's June 6, 2012 opinion (remember everyone has one) you quoted without your sound bites, is provided in the following link;

http://www.swelblog....SSLogoutOk=true

 

[cactusboy53]

Hey Clax, why don't you regurgitate old news? Oh wait, that's all you do. SYIC.

 

[noDOH4u]

I am outta here for the night guys. My apologizes for any offensive language.

breeze

Why do you always have to announce that you are leaving the forum for the night??? NO ONE GIVES A CR@P.

 

[Claxon]

Hey Clax, why don't you regurgitate old news? Oh wait, that's all you do. SYIC.

Your point please sir, be specific.