Feb / Mar 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[cactusboy53]

Your illustrious leaders at AOL should have thought about that before they fought against pay parity for the East.

The rest of your post was just stupid and doesn't deserve a response.

Dude;
You are either and ignorant toad that refuses to read and investigate anything before you post OR you post everything that Kamp McKleary for Klowns tells you to.

Which might it be? Could it be both?

 

[Bill Brasky]

Dude;
You are either and ignorant toad that refuses to read and investigate anything before you post OR you post everything that Kamp McKleary for Klowns tells you to.

Which might it be? Could it be both?

Actually neither. But I see the truth hurts enough for you to try to backpedal from it.

 

[cleardirect]

so you feel tat USPA should had gotten a contract just to allow the nic to be used. I'm sorry, but there's a bit more to it than that. Look, if I were in your shoes, I'd want that Nic as badly as you do!

Here is where you go wrong. It was not about seniority. That was settled as soon as Nicolau ruled and the company accepted the list.

It has been about getting a contract. A contract that usapa is supposed to get. You east pilots simply figured out a way to delay implementing the seniority.

With a total of 5000 pilots represented by usapa. 517 at the top of the list that are not effected by Nicolau or DOH. 1700 west pilots that got nothing and were harmed by the east demand for separate ops.

You have 44% of US Airways pilots harmed by not having a new joint contract.

Just one question.

How did the demand for separate ops and delay getting a contract which BTW is a legal responsibility of usapa benefit the ENTIRE pilot group as a whole?

 

[nevergiveup]

Here is where you go wrong. It was not about seniority. That was settled as soon as Nicolau ruled and the company accepted the list.

It has been about getting a contract. A contract that usapa is supposed to get. You east pilots simply figured out a way to delay implementing the seniority.

With a total of 5000 pilots represented by usapa. 517 at the top of the list that are not effected by Nicolau or DOH. 1700 west pilots that got nothing and were harmed by the east demand for separate ops.

You have 44% of US Airways pilots harmed by not having a new joint contract.

Just one question.

How did the demand for separate ops and delay getting a contract which BTW is a legal responsibility of usapa benefit the ENTIRE pilot group as a whole?

The Nic is what hurt the entire group as a whole. Things were going well before it came along. Blame the east all you want, but it isn't helping!

 

[snapthis]

You do understand that you're on the internet and that everyone's post should be taken with a grain of salt? Why so serious today?

He's all ticked off because I think he's that snake handling preacher boy who gave a sermon during a Crew News session a few months a ago. I noticed his was a little too touchy about the subject back then.

Snake handlers have been know to drink strychnine. Maybe his mason jar was empty this morning and he's feeling a little testy.

 

[cleardirect]

The Nic is what hurt the entire group as a whole. Things were going well before it came along. Blame the east all you want, but it isn't helping!

Wow. Now that is the most delusional statement I think I have ever heard.

Things were going well?

 

[nevergiveup]

Wow. Now that is the most delusional statement I think I have ever heard.

Things were going well?

Compare pre-nic, and post-nic. Was there not a better atmosphere between the two groups during the pre-nic? Maybe I'm wrong. Always look on the bright...side of life!

 

[traderjake]

I'm guessing the same number as if the Nic were in place, maybe fewer. You think? Does that change the fact of what I said?

The point I'm trying to make is that Reserve Captain going junior is a reflection the bad contract we have and is not evidence that the Nicolau Award is flawed.

 

[Pi brat]

The point I'm trying to make is that Reserve Captain going junior is a reflection the bad contract we have and is not evidence that the Nicolau Award is flawed.

Reserve is reserve. The makeup of the bottom captains has been that way for a while. I suspect there will still be guys that stay in the right seat for QOL with our new contract, especially since the reserve system seems worse.

You got my point wrong, or you just haven't looked at the numbers. Nicolau's assumptions were wrong, that's why we have such a disparity in numbers. The bottom east capt is about equal with a guy in the bottom 15% on the west. Do you really think that none of those guys from 50% to 85% on the west wouldn't take a captains bid?

 

[3dtv]

Here is where you go wrong. It was not about seniority. That was settled as soon as Nicolau ruled and the company accepted the list.

It has been about getting a contract. A contract that usapa is supposed to get. You east pilots simply figured out a way to delay implementing the seniority.

With a total of 5000 pilots represented by usapa. 517 at the top of the list that are not effected by Nicolau or DOH. 1700 west pilots that got nothing and were harmed by the east demand for separate ops.

You have 44% of US Airways pilots harmed by not having a new joint contract.

Just one question.

How did the demand for separate ops and delay getting a contract which BTW is a legal responsibility of usapa benefit the ENTIRE pilot group as a whole?

Keep repeating until it comes true? Nope. If NIC was it, a court would have ordered long ago. Seniority is not "settled" or the MOU would say it is NIC. It clearly is not. Repeat, the list(s) at US are not NIC. Not judging, not personal, just fact.

 

[Pi brat]

And if you didn't know him, then you would think he was a west pilot - is that correct?

No, has he been mentioned on the AWAPA board like you have?

 

[Pi brat]

Cleardirect? Where are your answers to the integrity test?

 

[Pi brat]

He's all ticked off because I think he's that snake handling preacher boy who gave a sermon during a Crew News session a few months a ago. I noticed his was a little too touchy about the subject back then.

Snake handlers have been know to drink strychnine. Maybe his mason jar was empty this morning and he's feeling a little testy.

Naw, just sometimes richards like you get on my nerves. Character flaw, I shouldn't let insignificant little p-ants that run their mouths bother me, but sometimes they do.

You adding this, "US Airways-end of an error" to Dawn's story bugged me. She wrote a good story about the history of AWA and instead of just enjoying it, you had to make is a smack at US Airways. Maybe it bugged me because my daughter is a journalist, I don't know, but I thought it was low class.

 

[dca319]

No, has he been mentioned on the AWAPA board like you have?

I wouldn't know. This is killing you, isn't it?

 

[mrbreeze]

Just so I have it straight - you're telling us a west employee on a trans-atl flight cornered one of our FAs and talked incessantly about SLI and she merely stood there and listened to him prattle on and not walk away? And then you're telling us he saw you, switched the conversation to our SLI while still talking to our FA in the hopes of baiting you into the conversation.
Is that your story? No wonder you get down voted for this. Hey Pi, am I supposed to agree with what he said here so that you accept me as one of your own or lay into him for making this crap up?

Your true colors are showing through, you juvenile poser.
breeze