Feb / Mar 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[mrbreeze]

Your perceived seniority is not our concern.

Your perceived lottery ticket is bogus!

 

[snapthis]

Your perceived lottery ticket is bogus!

Lottery ticket?

That's some stink bait thrown in the pond by Kirby and y'all bit. He gutted, cleaned you and threw you in the cooler, LOA 93.

 

[Claxon]

Lottery ticket?

That's some stink bait thrown in the pond by Kirby and y'all bit. He gutted, cleaned you and threw you in the cooler, LOA 93.

LOA 93 brought to some courtesy of ALPA. Kirby proposal, nic now doa and MOU courtesy of USAPA. What's in your wallet?

When will america west hire again? You have a loosing scratch off ticket now, downgraded from a lottery winner.

 

[snapthis]

LOA 93 brought to some courtesy of ALPA. Kirby proposal, nic now doa and MOU courtesy of USAPA. What's is in your wallet?

When will america west hire again? You have a loosing scratch off ticket now, downgraded from a lottery winner.

I never applied for a Capital One card.

You got rid of ALPA but kept Cleary. Who won the lottery?

 

[mrbreeze]

Lottery ticket?

That's some stink bait thrown in the pond by Kirby and y'all bit. He gutted, cleaned you and threw you in the cooler, LOA 93.

There you go again, thinking this is a little pond with stink bait. It's a worldly thing, junior. Try to think outta the little pond box!

LOA93 had nothing to do with Kirby, other than his taking advantage of the dispute. If there was any stink bait thrown out into the world it was when West pilots stood up against pay parity in the beginning of the merger. That, my friend, was drawing a line in the sand. Now it is coming back to bite you in the butt.

One of the reasons that the East has done so well in the last 10 yrs is due to the East pilots giving up $8 billion to secure our futures. You saved us, my ass!
breeze

 

[Metroyet]

"At this time the AWA pilots are unwilling to address our seniority concerns."

They are more unwilling than ever. Think real hard about that LUP. A federal judge in AZ WILL BE ASKING SHORTLY.

 

[cactusboy53]

LOA 93 brought to some courtesy of ALPA. Kirby proposal, nic now doa and MOU courtesy of USAPA. What's in your wallet?

When will america west hire again? You have a loosing scratch off ticket now, downgraded from a lottery winner.

Yes folks, back by popular demand...."It's ALPA's fault!!". Like the man said earlier, "Your perceived seniority is not our concern."

Hey! Why don't you quote some Stephan update, or better yet dig up a 20 some year old Ansett video?

SYIC.

 

[Freighterguynow]

Make to my original point. You easties think you are going to get a three way integration. Yet not a single one of you can follow through on how that would work.

Just more fantasy from the land of liars.

If you can't even create a small framework how is usapa going to avoid a law suit and get the arbitrators to accept a three way.

I think we can bury the fantasy of a three way integration for good.

To me, it's quite simple. APA seems to have ruled out DOH from the get go and it's looking like Arbitration is a given.

Apa will put out their list. USAPA will put down the East and West lists. The 3 person arbitrators will rule after giving Marty his due. Maybe they'll agree with USAPA maybe they'll agree with AOL - who knows? But, in the end, I don't see how anyone can sue after the Arbitration panel rules on way or the other.

I'm curious who trumps whom. Would a win in PHX trump the Federal Arbitration panel? It took Silver, What?, 18 months to decide not to decide. It'll all be over before AOL gets it's day in court.

 

[Metroyet]

To me, it's quite simple. APA seems to have ruled out DOH from the get go and it's looking like Arbitration is a given.

Apa will put out their list. USAPA will put down the East and West lists. The 3 person arbitrators will rule after giving Marty his due. Maybe they'll agree with USAPA maybe they'll agree with AOL - who knows? But, in the end, I don't see how anyone can sue after the Arbitration panel rules on way or the other.

I'm curious who trumps whom. Would a win in PHX trump the Federal Arbitration panel? It took Silver, What?, 18 months to decide not to decide. It'll all be over before AOL gets it's day in court.

You think highly credible litigation would have no affect on the timing of all this? So now USAPA is in a race against time to hurry up and violate the law because if they can do so quickly enough they'll get their DOH dream that has stripped over a Billion dollars in pay from their membership?

The Arbitration panel won't even be assembled while the litigation grinds on. Of course once USCABA is tossed on the trash heap APA will be free to end all opposition to the Nic...which is exactly what they will do. Majority rules...remember? It's called "democracy" ask $e$ham.

 

[PullUp]

You think highly credible litigation would have no affect on the timing of all this? So now USAPA is in a race against time to hurry up and violate the law because if they can do so quickly enough they'll get their DOH dream that has stripped over a Billion dollars in pay from their membership?

The Arbitration panel won't even be assembled while the litigation grinds on. Of course once USCABA is tossed on the trash heap APA will be free to end all opposition to the Nic...which is exactly what they will do. Majority rules...remember? It's called "democracy" ask $e$ham.

No, what will happen is that a judge will laugh AOL out of the courtroom and sanction your attorney for frivolously wasting his time.
Sheesh.

 

[mrbreeze]

You guys need to watch the first 2 episodes of this to REALLY get a feel for what we're up against.

Cleardirect.....the mighty Sheldore at his best! Actually, the next to the last skit is good also (fast forward to 9:30).....it shows that Sheldon has a heart. LOL

enjoy,
breeze

 

[nycbusdriver]

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Benjamin Franklin

Well, then. Congratulations on your efforts! Nice job!

 

[nevergiveup]

It will not be a three way. There is only APA and USAPA. USAPA will hand over their list and APA will hand over theirs. Then you can sue USAPA over the list that was handed over and sue. Similar to TWA, they sued ALPA for their actions. You have to sue USAPA and the dues payers to USAPA, ten years from now that will be......................?

While my preference is your post, the mou does refer to lists and no changes to them after the JCBA. Assuming the is no list in the first 90 days after the effective date, this seems to lean more toward a 3 way in arbitration.

 

[cactusboy53]

While my preference is your post, the mou does refer to lists and no changes to them after the JCBA. Assuming the is no list in the first 90 days after the effective date, this seems to lean more toward a 3 way in arbitration.

Bad move, 'give. ClaxonSunadarsonApollo does NOT like being told he is wrong (not to mention bringing into question his sanity or IQ level).

 

[snapthis]

No, what will happen is that a judge will laugh AOL out of the courtroom and sanction your attorney for frivolously wasting his time.
Sheesh.

It's more likely that Harper will have USAPA's assets frozen prior to the damages phase.