fatherabraham
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- Sep 27, 2002
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You have quoted an update. Nowhere in that does it say that USAPA's demise was our goal. Should this merger go through, USAPA & its failures will be history. The update simply states An opinion of the path that seems to be taking place, and what USAPA has achieved (or failed to achieve).
Please remember, prior to the merger we attempted to work toward changing the constitution to reflect representation of all LCC pilots.
Refute away. I've been posting our constitution, UOM, and items that I have heard transpired with regard to the PHL elections. On the other hand you directly accused Hummel of skulduggery. You have backed up your claim by a discussion with DiOrio Esq. or "DOH or DEATH" Music. Top drawer, my friend.
CB
Dave,
I do not live / eat / breathe this union business as you because
1- my wife reminds me constantly I have other duties
2-not gullible enuf for this mushroom to absorb all fed manure
3- not on fpl
That said I have reached the opinion that I do not trust GH and I think a president has a lot of influence over much constitution & uom administration . Could I be wrong on GH......of course . Since I am not God, I must rely on his actions to date in office and mgt background to form an opinion.
Do I think he is in the same camp as Rob S ?
Oh Yeah!
Do I think he wants to have a split BPR within Phl that conveniently coincides with his POV 's ?
Oh yeah !
So you post below for our sake ( thx ).
D. Inactive Membership may be granted to pilots who have completed the probationary period and meet the qualifications set forth in Article II, Section 1, upon application and approval. Inactive members shall not be eligible to vote, accept nomination for, run for, and/or occupy any elective or appointive office, including committee assignment.
Then I read an opinion like below that the current admin must despise ( possibly you as well ) and then attempts to diminish by attributing belittling character insults. You have shown above you like this strategy as well
" So what the hell is happening in Philly?
As you all know, the election for BPR Reps ended with the election of Paul DiOrio as Chairman, Paul Music as Vice-Chairman and a run off election between majority vote receiver, Buck Daugherty and the next greatest vote receiver, John Dubarry.
So, what has happened? Buck Daugherty has been on medical leave since he had a heart attack and has been using his sick time and vacation. He was told repeatedly by Rob Steble that he was eligible to run and if elected, to serve as the BPR Co-Chairman.
However, since he is in a run off, according to Rob Streble, he is now no longer eligible.
Now for Rob's explanation. I talked to Rob in person yesterday and he told me that each month the company sends USAPA a list with all the pilots and their status. Rob was aware that Buck was not going to be eligible for a run off, but never told him since he said that he thought Rob would win or lose outright. Buck had asked Rob if there was a problem and was told there was no problem. On the very day of the election, Rob said he suddenly saw that Buck was no longer eligible and called Buck to inform him he was no longer eligible to run, and that the run off would now be between John Dubarry and John Taylor.
Now remember this list has over 5000 pilots on it and their status, but Rob says he just happened to see Buck's name on it that day and that he would not be eligible and informed him the day of the election. Wow, wasn't that fortuitous?
In an effort to make sure that the PHL pilots get to vote for the candidates they want to represent them in the all important future negotiations, a compromise was suggested and was found to be legal. If all the candidates would agree to rerun the election with all the candidates excluding Buck Daugherty, than the pilots would get to vote for their representatives. Paul DiOrio agreed, Paul Music agreed, John Taylor agreed. John Dubarry, smelling an opportunity to get elected in a run off with little known John Taylor refused thereby stopping the new election. Let me say that again. Everybody agreed to allow the PHL pilots to vote for their preferred candidates and John Dubarry stopped them.
So, if the runoff election goes as now planned and John DuBarry is elected, we will once again see a 6 to 5 voting block with the DCA, PHX voting as a block and John Dubarry doing as he did the last time he was in office, voting with them for a badly split BPR in favor of the west and Hummel.
Buck Daugherty bears some responsibility for this, but to his credit he did try to find out what his status was and was told he was eligible. In his own words, "I have no one but my union to trust and they lied to me." Amazing how this works in Hummel's favor!
Now we get to today's news. In the past, any time a new BPR member was elected, he was included in any meetings so as to be up to speed when he takes office. He has no vote or voice in those meetings and it is a courtesy by the President in an effort to make sure the BPR has continuity for the pilots business. It has always been done this way and for a very good reason. The BPR needs representatives that know what is going on the moment they take office. This is especially important now with all the fast paced negotiations about to begin
The meeting in Dallas this week between the APA and USAPA is no exception. This meeting is a "getting to know you" meeting and one that will introduce our union members to theirs. These APA members will be the people that our BPR will be dealing with in the future for seniority and contract negotiations. It also provided an important opportunity for our two newest members to also meet them since they will be dealing with them in about a month. The two new PHL BPR members elect were originally invited to the meeting. This afternoon they were informed by Rob Streble that Gary Hummel has decided to exclude them from the meeting.
Anybody see a pattern here? On every opportunity to help the BPR be a part of the negotiations and for the pilots to be represented, Gary Hummel works to stop them.
The politics that are being exhibited from Gary Hummel makes anything in the past, USAPA or ALPA look like a child's play. Folks, something smells in the CLT headquarters of USAPA. You just have to look at the MOU that was negotiated by Hummel in secret and handed to the BPR with a 12 hour vote demand included. In a sense, either their signatures or their brains would be on that MOU. The MOU passed by the pilots, but no one thinks this MOU was all we could have gotten or is happy with the document. People voted for it because it was all we were offered and we were told that if we voted it down, we would be excluded from contract negotiations. (Your signature or your brains) once again.
Now we see an indication of possible election tampering and the exclusion of the new BPR Representatives from an important meeting.
If you aren't indignant, you aren't paying attention. Your vote did not count in the last BPR election. You are being asked to vote for candidates that are now picked for you. John Dubarry has stated in his campaign literature that he believes that our seniority needs to be a compromise with the west and the APA. Nothing like starting negotiations from a position of giving in before you start. This is the choice you are being given.
Stay tuned to what happens next. This is for high stakes. Someone is pulling Hummel's strings and there is a reason he keeps what he is doing secret and to keep anyone that might put up some opposition in the dark. I fear as many do that we are already being sold out, especially in the seniority negotiations. The west was promised something to vote almost 100% for that MOU. What that something is will remain a secret until it's too late."
Bottom line.......I will not easily capitulate my vote/opinion of union business if I believe I am right and hold majority view as well. That is clearly the way I see it in Phl as to the overwhelming majority I speak with. I sure as H will not allow political maneuvering to usurp the Phl majority rank / file w/o putting up a fight. Hence all the words I just typed and calls I will make.
My apology for long read.
FA