Feb / Mar 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Freighterguynow]

Seems like everyone is getting outed as Mov lately. And my claim is based on what I read. Did you read about the "hearing" the company had with Congress a week or so ago? It was hard to stay awake and most of the Congressmen were pimping their districts for a piece of the action. Add to that the fact that most of the other airline CEO's are not only for the merger, but actually promoting it, and you'd have to be a complete moron to think this won't go through quickly. Oh, sorry about that last crack FGN. I didn't mean you.

No worries DCA and the Mov thing was a joke - didn't quite make across cyber space

 

[cleardirect]

Was just watching the Parker/pilot meeting videos that USAPA sent us. I noticed them calling out some guys as "Captain...." Does that upset you west guys that were upset with east guys called captain?

You guys just don't get the culture yet did you?

 

[cleardirect]

Just a suggestion for you junior westies, think about giving all your profit sharing to Marty and company even though the NIC is dead, you owe him a lot of money. We unterstand that there are only a few hundred of you still hanging on to that NIC thing, everyone else has accepted the money and is moving on. In case you didn't know it's been over for quite a while.

"WE" who is we? You and your multiple personalities? Or maybe you are a rep and speak for east pilots?

Either way all of you would be wrong. Try over a thousand still holding onto our rights and the arbitrated list.

In the 5 years usapa has been begging the west to compromise have you found any west pilot willing to even consider concessions?

I don't know about you but I have not seen a check yet.

I would agre that we are all ready to move on using the Nicolau.

I would also agree that usapa and the dream of DOH has been over for quite awhile.


How many times are you goi g to tell us the Nicolau is dead? Yet here it is still the only list the company has accepted.

 

[nevergiveup]

"WE" who is we? You and your multiple personalities? Or maybe you are a rep and speak for east pilots?

Either way all of you would be wrong. Try over a thousand still holding onto our rights and the arbitrated list.

In the 5 years usapa has been begging the west to compromise have you found any west pilot willing to even consider concessions?

I don't know about you but I have not seen a check yet.

I would agre that we are all ready to move on using the Nicolau.

I would also agree that usapa and the dream of DOH has been over for quite awhile.


How many times are you goi g to tell us the Nicolau is dead? Yet here it is still the only list the company has accepted.

Do you feel the nic is the list currently in effect?

 

[Res Judicata]

...Are you threatening violence on us?

Of course not. Just a promise to snap your fake unions neck fairly soon. You have nothing left in the delay tool bag. This is going to excruciatingly painful for you. What's it like to have forcibly wasted well over a billion dollars of your coworkers money, waste 5 years on an illegal goose chase, get stapled anyway , and forever be reviled as the scumbag, pig scab you are for the rest of your career?

I see a medical retirement in many of you founding scabs future. Call Cleary, he's got a head start on the insurance fraud scheme.

 

[cleardirect]

This is one comment from an APA buddy

One guys opinion


Sell the west unit(doesn't make money, don't need it, we will eliminate it over time anyhow) and let them go with their seniority intact. Maybe they can spin eagle to them also. BOOM! Two problems solved at once. Then they can all flow through to AA/US with the eagle group...

A known guy with a credibility problem repeats ( makes up) the same scheme that the east has been trying for 5 years.

No imagination at all.

How exactly does an APA pilot would think that PHX losses money? LCC has not reported profits by bases ever.

Mad mut has been crowing about the west being spun off for years. Has Parker been talking about closing PHX or shrinking PHX or the drag of PHX that I missed?

I believe the Parker has made commitments to PHX to retain the base here.

Fact man try and understand them.

 

[prechilill]

Keep dreaming Jabba. We're coming after you guns blazing. You can't do anything about it.

Amen. Fatboy is about to get scalped. This is going to be fun to watch

 

[cleardirect]

Hmmm, maybe East has some value after all. Funny how not so long ago you guys badmouthed anything having to do with the East operation. Now, you want some of it. You are welcome to it just as soon as the SLI is dealt with.

The SLI was dealt with 6 years ago.

Now we have to deal with how us airways pilot and APA pilots equally share the benefits of the merger.

 

[cleardirect]

That was my favorite part of that movie! I was the bottom pilot in the airline for 5 years so I got to fly with a lot of captains that nobody wanted to fly with. Funny thing about that is that I actually liked flying with some of those captains that others bid around.
regardless of their reputations I learned something of value from every one of them.

All the best,

Bob

Let me ask you. After 5 years of being the bottom pilot did you gain seniority every year or remain the least junior pilot on the property?

 

[cleardirect]

Do you feel the nic is the list currently in effect?

No the Nicolau has not been implemented yet. That does not change the validity or the legality of the Nicolau.

 

[nevergiveup]

Let me ask you. After 5 years of being the bottom pilot did you gain seniority every year or remain the least junior pilot on the property?

He put in 5 years worth of hard earned dues! Some folks are willing to work for their seniority.

 

[Res Judicata]

He put in 5 years worth of hard earned dues! Some folks are willing to work for their seniority.

No. He just had a crappy career at a failing airline. That's it.

 

[cleardirect]

He put in 5 years worth of hard earned dues! Some folks are willing to work for their seniority.

But you did not answer the question.

Paying dues does not equate to seniority. I don't know where you guys came up with that idea.

Again. If you are the bottom pilot on the list and 5 years later you are still the bottom pilot on the list are you more senior after 5 years!

 

[nevergiveup]

But you did not answer the question.

Paying dues does not equate to seniority. I don't know where you guys came up with that idea.

Again. If you are the bottom pilot on the list and 5 years later you are still the bottom pilot on the list are you more senior after 5 years!

Perhaps you can answer yourself that question, being on a stagnant list.

 

[Claxon]

But you did not answer the question.

Paying dues does not equate to seniority. I don't know where you guys came up with that idea.

Again. If you are the bottom pilot on the list and 5 years later you are still the bottom pilot on the list are you more senior after 5 years!

The Westoffs are practically begging now. As if you are going to give them what they will never get. If Cleardirect put a fraction of the time she spends on this board into a different endeavor, she would be wealthy. But she chooses willfully to be a begger.