Delta +7 = $43.56

[1AA]

The 4% is in line with the other TWU priorities. Prefunding company match and the 14% equity being held. Did I forget to mention any other items of importance?

 

[Bob Owens]

I would agree with you if management didn't give the pilots and FAs industry leading contracts. Even after the FAs voted for an arbitrators decision which cost the FAs $82m in pay. Management GAVE the FAs the $82m which they didn't have to do.

The way I see it management has dealt with two unions and those work groups did very well. The only thing holding us back is the TWU. The "carrot" is the good contract, we will not get that until there is a joint contract, another stepping stone for the merger. What is holding us back is the greed of these two industrial unions.

Look at the troubleshooting chart. APA APFA, industry leading contracts. The twu IAM members will have to wait ANOTHER 18months, and no telling how bad it's going to be. For some reason the twu thinks the mechanics should sacrifice pay to make more jobs.

They have more respect for those groups, those groups never accepted bottom of the industry and were willing to fight to avoid that. The FA's struck in 1993 and the pilots struck in 1997. Despite all the concessions we never even got to negotiating under the 30 day cooling off period. Never really asked to be released. The last time mechanics struck was 1969. They have ZERO respect for us, thats why they keep hiring guys from NWA. 

 

[Bob Owens]

I thinking what the company wants is 100% line and 50% OH scope clause. I'm basing that on what Isom said in townhall meetings.

I'm betting the libtards will say we do 100% oh and 60% line and we give back 4% along with 3 sick days

You have your politics all out of whack. Its the Conservatives who say that low wages create jobs. In fact its the cornerstone of their argument against raising the minimum wage. Don Videtich had the Negotiating committee start off every meeting by saying a Christian Prayer after the Pledge. These things are not consistent with liberal positions. Does Overspeed come across to you as a Liberal or a pro-company Conservative ? 

 

[bigjets]

You have your politics all out of whack. Its the Conservatives who say that low wages create jobs. In fact its the cornerstone of their argument against raising the minimum wage. Don Videtich had the Negotiating committee start off every meeting by saying a Christian Prayer after the Pledge. These things are not consistent with liberal positions. Does Overspeed come across to you as a Liberal or a pro-company Conservative ?

I know, the Libtard was for le lo , the goofball from TULSA who expects us all to sacrifice for tul jobs. He likes to consider himself a conservative, and bashes dems from NY, a state that actually gives more then it takes, while he lives in a state that couldn't get by without gov handouts, and wouldn't survive without a union.

I understand that republicans main interest is for the rich and corporations, all you have to look at is the South Carolina Governor who said she will do everything to stop a union at Boeing. I don't think Union busting is a governments job. I'm not anti Union, im anti TWU and would rather have no Union over twu.

Has the association given any kind of hint as to what they will be negotiating for?

 

[Vortilon]

At the CLT Town Hall video on JetNet today, Doug Parker says it is Delta Plus 7% and he defined it as 7% above the highest paid., meaning Topped out mechanics plus 7%. i guess now the only thing that is holding up that raise is the Unions. I am curious what happened to the 4% increase at the first of 2015?
 
Does anyone know the wage status of Delta's Mechanics? 
 
And how it is broken down? 

 
RE Delta Pay etc..
 
Courtesy of Top Dawg.
 
Alright so pay first, all as of 04/01/15
 
AMT 35.93 (8 1/2 year scale)
ASM 25.81 (41/2 year scale) 
Inspector 38.09 (its a premium on top of AMT pay, this is based on top of scale)  
Stores 21.32 (8 1/2 year scale) 
MUE 22.78 ( 8 1/2 year scale) 
Lead AMT 38.09
Lead Inspector  38.96
 
1 license pay is 2.13
2 license pay is 4.26
Skill pay 3.20 
and Line is .75 per. 
 
Shift dif i think is .25 for 2nd and .50 for mids, but i can't remember for sure
 
Holiday pay works like this, 
if you work a premium day  (New Year’s Day, Independence Day, Labor Day, Thanksgiving Day, the Day after Thanksgiving and Christmas) you get two choices, double time or another day off. 
If you work a floating day (Martin Luther King, Jr. Day, Presidents’ Day, Good Friday and Memorial Day) you get another day off and regular base pay. 
 
Vacation is 
2 years after a year, 
3 after five years 
4 after ten 
5 after twenty five. Just got this back. 
 
We do PPT time not sick time. So you get about a week over a year. You can bank up to three now I think. You can also sell them or donate them.

 

[Vortilon]

Courtesy of Top Dawg Delta AMT.
 
Top Dawgs reply to my question on "all in" pay:
 
"So I am in the hangar, working days and i make 41.19 an hour. 
if you work the line you basically make 42 an hour."
 
Hope this helps, so figure on 7% above that.

 

[Kev3188]

Just to confirm a couple of 'Dawg's numbers:

Shift differential is .45/hr. for second shift and .52/hr. for third.

PPT accrual is 56 hrs./ yr. (assuming you were FT the entire previous year.). You can bank a max of 3 years worth. After that, any excess is either rolled over into a separate bank or cashed out...

 

[Vortilon]

Kev, Dawg said he wasn't sure, but thought the shift differential was .25 for second, and .50 for midnite shift.

 

[Kev3188]

I know, but his guess was off a little, so I wanted to get the right info out there.
 
.45/hr. is for start times between 1200-1759, and .52/hr. is for start times between 1800-0559. 
 
FWIW, ACS (ramp, gate, etc.) gets the same differential rates.
 
No longevity overrides at DL...

 

[Shafted]

I know this is mainly an AMT discussion but these numbers that were posted on the Stores pay in the Delta forum are differnt than what Dawg posted here.
 
 http://www.airlineforums.com/topic/58263-delta-stores/
 
http://www.airlineforums.com/topic/58456-delta-airlines-stock-clerk-wages/

 

[dfw gen]

The only problem is that we are at least 12-18 months away from seeing anything.

 

[Buck]

The only problem is that we are at least 12-18 months away from seeing anything.

Yes, but be assured brother that your "RETRO" is in the bank...

 

[Vortilon]

The only problem is that we are at least 12-18 months away from seeing anything.

 
The Industry averaging bump comes up in about 4 months.  Using Delta & United would be about a $4.00ph bump in pay.  Just spitballing mind you.  UAL's M&R still in negotiations.  They did turn down around a $41.50ph company proposal a little over a year ago.   Doesn't do anything for benefits etc. though.
 
Check this link out for more details: http://www.unitednegotiations.com/employees/technicians/negotiations-updates/2013/11/07/negotiations-update-20131107/

 

[Buck]

 
The Industry averaging bump comes up in about 4 months.  Using Delta & United would be about a $4.00ph bump in pay.  Just spitballing mind you.  UAL's M&R still in negotiations.  They did turn down around a $41.50ph company proposal a little over a year ago.   Doesn't do anything for benefits etc. though.
 
Check this link out for more details: http://www.unitednegotiations.com/employees/technicians/negotiations-updates/2013/11/07/negotiations-update-20131107/

Yes, but can you include USAir under their new contract barring any other changes? 09/12/15

 

[WeAAsles]

Yes, but can you include USAir under their new contract barring any other changes? 09/12/15

Since the company has SOC I personally don't think they should if you look at how they wrote the formula considering UAL/CAL as one picking the highest scale for the calculator.

If we don't have a JCBA before then and the company wants to use US I think it should be a Presidential grievance that they shouldn't.

IF they use them?