Heresy, I say. (But probably a good move for airlines in the coming years.)
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OK, suit yourself. You can always sell taffy or french fries on the nearest boardwalk down the shore if you don't like the changes to the perks that are coming for the self-important and entitlement-minded frequent flyers who have a false and inflated sense of just how valuable they really are to airlines in the coming era of sky-high oil prices.
I'll take my fries with ketchup, please. Good luck finding work in the off-season.
CynicalResAgent
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Why does US just not introduce payment via credit cards or voucher only for food, drink, pillows etc.
YX has for a while taken credit cards electronically onboard the aircraft. It reduces errors in accounting, gives the customer a receipt (which most people traveling on business need), and in my opinion (but I am not a FA so take it for what it's worth) seems like it would be easier on the FA who does not need to count out change, fill out forms, and be accountable for the money paid and won't have to deal with some very justified person trying to make a point by paying in pennies.
I am also thinking that if things turn around, supply drops, fares raise, that airlines are going to go back to trying to differentiate their service from the competition by trying to show their product is of more value....what will that look like? I don't know; but if there are less fliers, the ones traveling on premium fares will be highly sought after. Watch the cycle reset and airlines will again suddenly realise the value of VFF.
"this has all happened before and will happen again"
YX has for a while taken credit cards electronically onboard the aircraft. It reduces errors in accounting, gives the customer a receipt (which most people traveling on business need), and in my opinion (but I am not a FA so take it for what it's worth) seems like it would be easier on the FA who does not need to count out change, fill out forms, and be accountable for the money paid and won't have to deal with some very justified person trying to make a point by paying in pennies.
I am also thinking that if things turn around, supply drops, fares raise, that airlines are going to go back to trying to differentiate their service from the competition by trying to show their product is of more value....what will that look like? I don't know; but if there are less fliers, the ones traveling on premium fares will be highly sought after. Watch the cycle reset and airlines will again suddenly realise the value of VFF.
"this has all happened before and will happen again"
KCFlyer
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And so it's up to the airline to provide the perks your company won't provide with the savings in airfare? I think you touched on your outrage...you might want to move over to Continental, but your company has aggressively negotiated a contract that, given your location, predominantly requires that you fly US, as most companies I have worked for didn't really want us changing planes in Cleveland to get to Omaha if there was a non-stop available on another airline. And US is pulling the perks. The airlines cannot even afford to pay their own employees for working - yet you want them to provide YOU with something because of your time away from home. I'd speak to the boss about a raise.
Dog Wonder
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Is it Cheap?
They are working on that option. I would also not be surprised to see a purchase voucher option at the kiosk like CO has. Swipe the card and you get a printout to hand in for a drink, etc.
So the service and perks you have been receiving from U / LCC over the years have been so good, you accepted a 50% cut in salary to be able to enjoy them?
Riiiiiiight.
N965VJ
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Grasshopper, at some point in your life you will realize there are some things worth fighting for, and some worth walking away.
PayParity
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You will never leave. You are all talk no action. Plain and simple.
I applaud all the support the FFocus members have given all employee groups here. As far as I am concerned there will be a flood of yellow liquid in every station our company flies into. The FFocus members are the ones who ultimately put food on everyone of our tables. They have crossed the line and supported our workers and fought the fought with the sandcastle standing right next to us.
I am wondering about the skycaps becoming non-existant as they cannot collect the 15.00 on the curb. Ohhh boy and think of all the cleaning companies they will have to hire to clean up all of our take out food orders brought on board the aircraft. You will all be wiffing onions, peperoni and fish on board our first class airliner! On time departures will be a a passing fancy as all passengers will be loading up big time on the carry-on. Lines at kiosks will be backed up if passengers pay cash (the company will insist on cash) for the one-two baggage charges. Our F/A's will look like "Good Humor" ice cream truck sales agents with a change belt...ka-klunk...ka-klunk. It will be one royal mess, similar to a Rocky Horror Movie.
What our Company should be doing right now is what we do every day as Union employees. LOBBY, LOBBY, LOBBY. Get the government's panties in a bunch over the oil crisis going on in our country. Hey, if the President of the USA can stand in our way under RLA to keep us from job action and strikes they most certainly can be pressured to save our industry. This is sabotage...Chaves was right when he stood at the same podium in the United Nations sniffing and stating he smelled "sulfer"....he was right because the President of our great nation had stood their previously.
So my friends, it is now up to our great company here at Usairways to straighten out this debacle.
FFocus are friends here on the threads...knock it off and show them respect.
-DEX
I am wondering about the skycaps becoming non-existant as they cannot collect the 15.00 on the curb. Ohhh boy and think of all the cleaning companies they will have to hire to clean up all of our take out food orders brought on board the aircraft. You will all be wiffing onions, peperoni and fish on board our first class airliner! On time departures will be a a passing fancy as all passengers will be loading up big time on the carry-on. Lines at kiosks will be backed up if passengers pay cash (the company will insist on cash) for the one-two baggage charges. Our F/A's will look like "Good Humor" ice cream truck sales agents with a change belt...ka-klunk...ka-klunk. It will be one royal mess, similar to a Rocky Horror Movie.
What our Company should be doing right now is what we do every day as Union employees. LOBBY, LOBBY, LOBBY. Get the government's panties in a bunch over the oil crisis going on in our country. Hey, if the President of the USA can stand in our way under RLA to keep us from job action and strikes they most certainly can be pressured to save our industry. This is sabotage...Chaves was right when he stood at the same podium in the United Nations sniffing and stating he smelled "sulfer"....he was right because the President of our great nation had stood their previously.
So my friends, it is now up to our great company here at Usairways to straighten out this debacle.
FFocus are friends here on the threads...knock it off and show them respect.
-DEX
jimcfs
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And that's why it won't be done given the Tempe braintrust.
KCFlyer
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Bob...is it written anywhere that it's the AIRLINES job to compensate you for your time away from your family? Because that's what you're upset about...the airline is pulling your perks, and you deserve those perks because you are away from home. I always thought that compensation in the form of perks and pay was my company's responsibility, not some airline. I'm not flamebaiting...I have been and still am waiting for someone to explain to me why it is an airlines job to provide perks that one's own employer will not provide. I mean...the company buys you a coach seat...you want the airline to upgrade that to a first class seat, provide food, silverware, glassware, free drinks and whatever else you desire. It seems to me that your companyis taking full advantage of an airline...would they balk if you asked them to pay for your first class seat?
KCFlyer
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but...but....
I thought you loved what you did and loved to travel - if the airlines abolish their FF programs, will you quit your job?
With "friends" like that, who needs enemies.
Twicebaked
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Protest? What do you expect the company to do?????
Airlines are losing money at an alarming rate. Everyone that raises fares or adds on fees are you going to pay with pennies????? That is not going to protest anything. Try paying for a soda on a plane with all pennies and I guarantee that the flight attendants refuse!! And NO, we don't have to accept it!!!
This is our new reality. US is not the only airline charging fees for bags etc.
As for selling beverages, they WILL follow suit before to long.
We are transportation....look it up in the dictionary. Nowhere does it say anything about food and drinks for free! That WAS a perk that is history.
Airlines are losing money at an alarming rate. Everyone that raises fares or adds on fees are you going to pay with pennies????? That is not going to protest anything. Try paying for a soda on a plane with all pennies and I guarantee that the flight attendants refuse!! And NO, we don't have to accept it!!!
This is our new reality. US is not the only airline charging fees for bags etc.
As for selling beverages, they WILL follow suit before to long.
We are transportation....look it up in the dictionary. Nowhere does it say anything about food and drinks for free! That WAS a perk that is history.
