Article 4 Industry Comparable Pay rate

ThirdSeatHero said:
LOL!
 
By your own example you prove my point the ASAP existed before the TWU decided to join in.
 
Maybe you should credit the APA for "pioneering" the ASAP
We are the first to implement the ASAP program for mechanics. We pioneered the program for mechanics. Again I stated the truth.

And AMFA inherited the benefits of our pioneering work in developing the ASAP program for mechanics.

Again, you are welcome.
 
ThirdSeatHero said:
Are you trying to deny that AMFA negotiated our MOU at UAL?
Nobody is. The point is that every mechanic ASAP program was a follow on to the TWU first ever ASAP program for mechanics. The TWU did a great job of stepping up and every other union reaped the benefits of the hard work TWU members and legal counsel put in place.

You are welcome.
 
Overspeed said:
We are the first to implement the ASAP program for mechanics. We pioneered the program for mechanics. Again I stated the truth.

And AMFA inherited the benefits of our pioneering work in developing the ASAP program for mechanics.

Again, you are welcome.
 
You are one truly pathetic individual to try and pass that off.
 
The ASAP program was already in existence in 1998. The TWU didn't pioneer it, they simply JOINED it. Your own post illustrates this clearly.
 
While you may continue with your childish attempt to glorify the TWU rest assured if the TWU hadn't joined, it would in no way have stopped any other mechanic group from joining.
 
The TWU isn't a pioneer, they're a participant.
 
ThirdSeatHero said:
You are one truly pathetic individual to try and pass that off.
 
The ASAP program was already in existence in 1998. The TWU didn't pioneer it, they simply JOINED it. Your own post illustrates this clearly.
 
While you may continue with your childish attempt to glorify the TWU rest assured if the TWU hadn't joined, it would in no way have stopped any other mechanic group from joining.
 
The TWU isn't a pioneer, they're a participant.
Not for mechanics. For pilots. Are you saying the safety issues that affect mechanics are the same as pilots? No.

So we pioneered ASAP for mechanics.

Oh and we did a good job on the wage adjustment too.
 
ThirdSeatHero said:
 
Why would AMFAs logo be there if the IBT was our CBA when the flyer was written? You're not making much sense.
Oh that's right. AMFA got voted out after they had been voted in less than 5 years earlier. I read about that in the "Solidarity", socialist webpage online.
 
Overspeed said:
Not for mechanics. For pilots. Are you saying the safety issues that affect mechanics are the same as pilots? No.

So we pioneered ASAP for mechanics.

Oh and we did a good job on the wage adjustment too.
 
You are  completely lost or an utter fool.
 
The ASAP program wasn't created just for pilots, it was created for airlines.
 
The FAA didn't rewrite the ASAP program for mechanics when the TWU joined.
 
The TWU signing an MOU didn't pioneer the ASAP program.
 
Nice Try
 
ThirdSeatHero said:
 
You are  completely lost or an utter fool.
 
The ASAP program wasn't created just for pilots, it was created for airlines.
 
The FAA didn't rewrite the ASAP program for mechanics when the TWU joined.
 
The TWU signing an MOU didn't pioneer the ASAP program.
 
Nice Try
 
Nice try at getting caught in trying to devalue the great pioneering work of hard working TWU reps
 
Overspeed said:
 
Nice try at getting caught in trying to devalue the great pioneering work of hard working TWU reps
ROTFLMAO!!!
 
The only one getting caught here is you, as your continued attempts to try and glorify the TWU in the face of obvious fact, devalues both the TWUs and your own almost nonexistent credibility.
 
ThirdSeatHero said:
ROTFLMAO!!!
 
The only one getting caught here is you, as your continued attempts to try and glorify the TWU in the face of obvious fact, devalues both the TWUs and your own almost nonexistent credibility.
The APA and TWU were both honored by the FAA and the President of the US as being the first to implement ASAP. Both are pioneers in the ASAP programs that are now used industry wide.

Using your criteria the Wright Brothers did nothing and were not pioneers in aviation because many people before them envisioned powered flight before them. Face it, the TWU were the first to implement a working and functioning ASAP program that other unions should be thankful for the work they did.

You just want to feel better because you piped in before knowing the facts. Typical AMFA position based on emotion and lacking all the facts.

And your welcome.
 
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Overspeed said:
We are the first to implement the ASAP program for mechanics. We pioneered the program for mechanics. Again I stated the truth.

And AMFA inherited the benefits of our pioneering work in developing the ASAP program for mechanics.

Again, you are welcome.
I have to be honest here, although the pilots started the ASAP,  The ASAP program with the mechanics has been very effective and has helped many mechanics. I saw it first hand.  I give credit to the select few people who are involved in the program not the TWU as a whole.
 

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