Article 4 Industry Comparable Pay rate

[Chuck Schalk]

Overspun,
 
lets recap,  you say AMFA lost alot of jobs
 
We say the TWU lost alot of jobs
 
can we both let that go for now and agree to disagree on that topic, we have beat it to death.
 
 
Now, can we focus on my original question,
 
Please list all the great accomplishments the TWU has done for our members and what the TWU has done to help my career?
 
start with #1............... it is a simple question for such a resourceful man

 

[Rogallo]

Ain't Gonna Happen!

 

[Overspeed]

Overspun,
 
lets recap,  you say AMFA lost alot of jobs
 
We say the TWU lost alot of jobs
 
can we both let that go for now and agree to disagree on that topic, we have beat it to death.
 
 
Now, can we focus on my original question,
 
Please list all the great accomplishments the TWU has done for our members and what the TWU has done to help my career?
 
start with #1............... it is a simple question for such a resourceful man

 
That question has been answered too many times and I have answered it numerous times under your TWU...negotiations what? thread. Go back and read it.

 

[TWU informer]

Has anyone else reading here noticed that everytime the TWU failures are pointed out, or someone mentions we need a change of direction, Realityck, overspeed, and all TWU defenders only response is "AMFA bad". It is like they bury their head in the sand about what is happening with the Union they are paying dues to, they are blinded, and only fear change.
 
Why is that?
 
My bet is, they are on the TWU payroll, and fear going back to work and being held accountable.

 

[Chuck Schalk]

 
That question has been answered too many times and I have answered it numerous times under your TWU...negotiations what? thread. Go back and read it.

No Overspun, you keep reflecting on AMFA
 
I want to know specifically how the TWU has helped my career?
 
should not be hard for a man with such a wealth of knowledge.
 
use your your resources for the info,  Little, gless, videtich, vanderloo, clark, 
 
it can't be that hard after all the the great and powerful TWU has done for us.
 
go ahead start with #1

 

[Overspeed]

No Overspun, you keep reflecting on AMFA
 
I want to know specifically how the TWU has helped my career?
 
should not be hard for a man with such a wealth of knowledge.
 
use your your resources for the info,  Little, gless, videtich, vanderloo, clark, 
 
it can't be that hard after all the the great and powerful TWU has done for us.
 
go ahead start with #1

 
ASAP

 

[Rogallo]

Told ya. Ain't gonna happen. It's not currently on the TWU fear mongering agenda!

 

[Chuck Schalk]

 
ASAP

 
 
you know why......because you can't do it.   all you can do is spin AMFA propaganda.  you can not even defend your beloved TWU. How sad, that our careers have gone down the tubes and you just confirmed it. The TWU is the leading concessionary union and we lowered the bar for the entire industry.  before you throw stones,  defend your own if you can
 
start with #1

 

[DallasConehead]

I care! And this isn't just about you my friend.

Actually it is. Some MFr come on here and talk about about hes gonna save this or save that, hes just another  chump looking to enhance his own lifestyle. That's all this **** ever been about.  He wants better days off vacations, shift, more money, whatever. He might be from the company, some union, who cares, just another MFr trying to put me in the ground so he can get abetter deal for himself. I'm sick of it, I don't care about any of it, I just want to get through a few more years so I can get out of here with what I have and put all of this **** in my rear view mirror. Cause all this been a bad night mare. In the end it aint about nothing except me and my family and close friends, all you bitches and assholes can kiss my ass, along with your shitty blood sucking unions and company's.

 

[TWU informer]

Actually it is. Some MFr come on here and talk about about hes gonna save this or save that, hes just another  chump looking to enhance his own lifestyle. That's all this #### ever been about.  He wants better days off vacations, shift, more money, whatever. He might be from the company, some union, who cares, just another MFr trying to put me in the ground so he can get abetter deal for himself. I'm sick of it, I don't care about any of it, I just want to get through a few more years so I can get out of here with what I have and put all of this #### in my rear view mirror. Cause all this been a bad night mare. In the end it aint about nothing except me and my family and close friends, all you bitches and assholes can kiss my ass, along with your shitty blood sucking unions and company's.

Wow!
That says it all.

 

[swamt]

Actually it is. Some MFr come on here and talk about about hes gonna save this or save that, hes just another  chump looking to enhance his own lifestyle. That's all this #### ever been about.  He wants better days off vacations, shift, more money, whatever. He might be from the company, some union, who cares, just another MFr trying to put me in the ground so he can get abetter deal for himself. I'm sick of it, I don't care about any of it, I just want to get through a few more years so I can get out of here with what I have and put all of this #### in my rear view mirror. Cause all this been a bad night mare. In the end it aint about nothing except me and my family and close friends, all you bitches and assholes can kiss my ass, along with your shitty blood sucking unions and company's.

And I hope you can do that.  Good luck with retirement.  Never look back,  never...

 

[AANYER]

Gents,
 
I spoke with a Station Manager who went to the big meeting this past week in Dallas with Paul Wroble, the VP of Line Maintenance and all of the big mucky mucks from around the AA system.  Word is, they believe that AMFA has a legitimate opportunity to supplant the TWU at AA because of all their lies and misgivings.  Additionally, I was told that the new AA management does not want this "Two headed TWU/IAM snake".  They said they would rather deal with one union or the other.  Effectively, the AFLCIO has screwed both TWU and the IAM.  The TWU, IAM and IBT deception last year could not have played out better.  This was music to our ears.
 
 
 
 
AMFA NOW More THAN Ever

 

[1AA]

Gents,
 
I spoke with a Station Manager who went to the big meeting this past week in Dallas with Paul Wroble, the VP of Line Maintenance and all of the big mucky mucks from around the AA system.  Word is, they believe that AMFA has a legitimate opportunity to supplant the TWU at AA because of all their lies and misgivings.  Additionally, I was told that the new AA management does not want this "Two headed TWU/IAM snake".  They said they would rather deal with one union or the other.  Effectively, the AFLCIO has screwed both TWU and the IAM.  The TWU, IAM and IBT deception last year could not have played out better.  This was music to our ears.
 
 
 
 
AMFA NOW More THAN Ever

Or it could have been some hog wash to see how the TWU and IAM react to this news. I hope that this time around the guys and gals wake up and sign a card and support a vote and once and for all get rid of the TWU. Dealing with one union for one work group is better than this two union alliance with its logistical nightmare of who is represented by who and at which station and so on.  I'm hoping that by August we will finally file and have a Democratic vote.

 

[TWU informer]

Gents,
 
I spoke with a Station Manager who went to the big meeting this past week in Dallas with Paul Wroble, the VP of Line Maintenance and all of the big mucky mucks from around the AA system.  Word is, they believe that AMFA has a legitimate opportunity to supplant the TWU at AA because of all their lies and misgivings.  Additionally, I was told that the new AA management does not want this "Two headed TWU/IAM snake".  They said they would rather deal with one union or the other.  Effectively, the AFLCIO has screwed both TWU and the IAM.  The TWU, IAM and IBT deception last year could not have played out better.  This was music to our ears.
 
 
 
 
AMFA NOW More THAN Ever

It is against Federal Law for management to take a position and discuss or influence our choice of union representation.
 
All we have ever asked is for them to stay out of it, let us decided within the law, so far that has seemed difficult for them.

 

[Flying low]

Gents,
 
I spoke with a Station Manager who went to the big meeting this past week in Dallas with Paul Wroble, the VP of Line Maintenance and all of the big mucky mucks from around the AA system.  Word is, they believe that AMFA has a legitimate opportunity to supplant the TWU at AA because of all their lies and misgivings.  Additionally, I was told that the new AA management does not want this "Two headed TWU/IAM snake".  They said they would rather deal with one union or the other.  Effectively, the AFLCIO has screwed both TWU and the IAM.  The TWU, IAM and IBT deception last year could not have played out better.  This was music to our ears.
 
 
 
 
AMFA NOW More THAN Ever

I haver never heard any member of management get involved in a union struggle. I have heard several say that they can not and will not express their opinions for the reason that informer stated.