Another School Massacre

[Knotbuyinit]

That is why I want a law implemented that hold gun owners liable for their weapons. The guns need to be maintain in a secure safe when not in use or in possession of the owner. If the gun is stolen that safe better have its door blown off the hinges or they are in deep crap if the gun is used in the commission of a crime.


Sad thing is most people want the freedom but do not want to pay the price that comes with it.

My guns are in a secure location when they are in my home, they're in my home.

 

[delldude]

Sadly, having contemplated modern society and the recent penchant for violent home invasions, I have taken steps for safe, quick access to my weapons in a variety of locations. Safely stored, loaded and ready to rock and roll if the situation would arise.

One large contribution to home invasions is the availability of heroin and its extremely low cost.

 

[Dog Wonder]

One large contribution to home invasions is the availability of heroin and its extremely low cost.

If its cheap they don't have to commit as many home invasions.

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

One large contribution to home invasions is the availability of heroin

...then do not keep heroin in the home. Problem solved.

 

[signals]

That is why I want a law implemented that hold gun owners liable for their weapons. The guns need to be maintain in a secure safe when not in use or in possession of the owner. If the gun is stolen that safe better have its door blown off the hinges or they are in deep crap if the gun is used in the commission of a crime.


Sad thing is most people want the freedom but do not want to pay the price that comes with it.

You are aware that gun stores are robbed everyday. You can't stop criminals from getting guns any more than you can stop ruthless people from stealing one's identity. You can take measures, but most of the time it is by those on the 'inside'! Nothing is 100% fulproof.

 

[signals]

I would pay the same price if I were to own a gun. I'd buy a certified safe and keep it locked up when it was not on my person.

You do realize that the price comment was for freedom. Nice to know that freedom can be bought with money

 

[RDU Jetblast]

You're not very smart are you? If your car is stolen and used as a get away car in a fatal armed robbery, are you held responsible for facilitating said robbery? How about said stolen car used in a fatal drunk driving accident? Are you held accountable? After all, you DID lose control of the security of your car didn't you? If someone breaches the deadbolt on your doors and comes in and rapes your wife, are you held responsible for the crime of rape? After all, you DID lose control of the security of your home didn't you?

safe to say, smarter than you!

60 percent of traffic fatalities are not caused by stolen vehicles.

60 percent of dui's are not committed in stolen vehicles, are they?

A car is not a weapon designed to kill, is it?

A gun is. there is only one reason a thief would steal a gun. to trade for money or commit another crime.

As for the rest of your argument- total B.S.

 

[RDU Jetblast]

Well in that case we will need to re-examine Hitler since apparantly he did nothing wrong in his youth group "training" of children to modify their behavior and grow up to see jewish people as subhuman. Or we can fully dispense with the whole notion of parenting a child as he/she grows up since nothing we can do or say to said child will modify their behavior as they mature. I guess we can dispense with the silly notion that gay and lesbian people should be accepted in society for who they are since you cannot teach behavior according to you.

Here I have been spending all this time with my children teaching them right from wrong, how to make good moral choices etc. I should have said screw it and went fishing or something instead.

That is the most stupid remark I have ever seen you make. And if that were true this country and planet would have long ago destroyed it's self.

However if the person does not have parents that care, then yes, there is little that a school system or religous organization can do in any real large numbers.

How about this, since you want to hold a weapon owner responsible for a stolen weapon if it is used in a crime, and take all reason out of the subject or fail to hold an evil doer liable for his wrong doings. Well then we should also hold the parents of all these gangbangers responsible for the murders and deaths caused by said gangbanger. Since you cannot teach behavior as you suggest then clearly the murder is directly attributed to the parents that conceived the child. If they had not given birth to the child then the person would not have been murdered!

I don't know where you think such a notion that holding a theft victim responsible for the robbers actions can lead anywhere except a very very dark place. You get it for guns, next will be cars as said above, after that it will be for a statement made to a child while growing up and on and on. I guess the murder victim will be held accountable next, since clearly if he had not been alive the murderer him would not have been able to kill him. Reminds me of the driving laws in many muslem countries.....A U.S citizen was in an auto accident in a car with a native of the country, the native ran a red light and collided with the U.S. guy. The US guy got the ticket and blame for the accident. Why you ask? Because he being the infidel christian in the scenario it was clear that Allah had willed the Muslim to be in that intersection at that very time, so ergo it was clearly the fault of the infidel for being where he was not supposed to be. True story. Is that the type of laws and rulings you want this country to go to?

I hope if you have children that they at least had a good influence in their life at school or in a neighbor. Sounds like you just checked out as a parent right after the moaning and grunting stopped in the bedroom if you believe that behavior cannot be taught and guided. If that is the prevailing school of thought in your home town of the Bronx, no wonder the violence there is so bad.

 

[xUT]

My guns are in a secure location when they are in my home, they're in my home.

Keeping your home protection in a safe while you are home is like cutting the head off a condom.

 

[Knotbuyinit]

safe to say, smarter than you!

60 percent of traffic fatalities are not caused by stolen vehicles.

60 percent of dui's are not committed in stolen vehicles, are they?

A car is not a weapon designed to kill, is it?

A gun is. there is only one reason a thief would steal a gun. to trade for money or commit another crime.

As for the rest of your argument- total B.S.

What part of "stolen" are you confused about? My home is a safe, secure location and the person/s who steals them are responsible for their actions, not me. Try again.

 

[RDU Jetblast]

Well in that case we will need to re-examine Hitler since apparantly he did nothing wrong in his youth group "training" of children to modify their behavior and grow up to see jewish people as subhuman. Or we can fully dispense with the whole notion of parenting a child as he/she grows up since nothing we can do or say to said child will modify their behavior as they mature. I guess we can dispense with the silly notion that gay and lesbian people should be accepted in society for who they are since you cannot teach behavior according to you.



you live under a rock and live in a very, very, small spere.




Here I have been spending all this time with my children teaching them right from wrong, how to make good moral choices etc. I should have said screw it and went fishing or something instead.


you arent a third generation crack baby.




That is the most stupid remark I have ever seen you make. And if that were true this country and planet would have long ago destroyed it's self.




stick around, I can make stupider remarks. parts of this country are already destroyed. step out of your sphere and stroll into a poor neighborhood.




However if the person does not have parents that care, then yes, there is little that a school system or religous organization can do in any real large numbers.

How about this, since you want to hold a weapon owner responsible for a stolen weapon if it is used in a crime, and take all reason out of the subject or fail to hold an evil doer liable for his wrong doings. Well then we should also hold the parents of all these gangbangers responsible for the murders and deaths caused by said gangbanger. Since you cannot teach behavior as you suggest then clearly the murder is directly attributed to the parents that conceived the child. If they had not given birth to the child then the person would not have been murdered!




the parents of gangbangers are gangbangers. If they had any assets they would be sued in civil court but they dont.




I don't know where you think such a notion that holding a theft victim responsible for the robbers actions can lead anywhere except a very very dark place. You get it for guns, next will be cars as said above, after that it will be for a statement made to a child while growing up and on and on. I guess the murder victim will be held accountable next, since clearly if he had not been alive the murderer him would not have been able to kill him. Reminds me of the driving laws in many muslem countries.....A U.S citizen was in an auto accident in a car with a native of the country, the native ran a red light and collided with the U.S. guy. The US guy got the ticket and blame for the accident. Why you ask? Because he being the infidel christian in the scenario it was clear that Allah had willed the Muslim to be in that intersection at that very time, so ergo it was clearly the fault of the infidel for being where he was not supposed to be. True story. Is that the type of laws and rulings you want this country to go to?



Ease up buddy.



I hope if you have children that they at least had a good influence in their life at school or in a neighbor. Sounds like you just checked out as a parent right after the moaning and grunting stopped in the bedroom if you believe that behavior cannot be taught and guided. If that is the prevailing school of thought in your home town of the Bronx, no wonder the violence there is so bad.



Ever hear that the parson's daughter is usually the biggest slut?
She know's better. But her behavior is questionable.

Oh, and dont worry bout my kids.

 

[Knotbuyinit]

Keeping your home protection in a safe while you are home is like cutting the head off a condom.

Hell, I don't even own a safe, much less keep them in one when I'm away!

 

[RDU Jetblast]

What part of "stolen" are you confused about? My home is a safe, secure location and the person/s who steals them are responsible for their actions, not me. Try again.

ok. my last attempt.

you buy a gun for protection. but it fails because it was stolen. now, it is a threat to society. All because your inaction to safeguard your weapon. You cant control your gun and it is now a threat to me. You are responsible for your inactions. Or should be

 

[Knotbuyinit]

ok. my last attempt.

you buy a gun for protection. but it fails because it was stolen. now, it is a threat to society. All because your inaction to safeguard your weapon. You cant control your gun and it is now a threat to me. You are responsible for your inactions. Or should be

Nope, try again.

 

[Knotbuyinit]

ok. my last attempt.

you buy a gun for protection. but it fails because it was stolen. now, it is a threat to society. All because your inaction to safeguard your weapon. You cant control your gun and it is now a threat to me. You are responsible for your inactions. Or should be

BTW, you know how stupid you sound?