Amfa Vs. Twu Debate

[TWU informer]

Just sent it out today huh? So did TWU. This ought to be good.

Sent out today, notice the DATE on the initial posting of this thread.

December 20th, 2003 at 05:32p.m.

Imagine that? I smell a coward in the crowd.

 

[twuer]

According to recent communications, the AMFA vs. TWU will be scheduled at the Brady Theater in Tulsa, Oklahoma on Saturday January 17th, 2004.

Do you hear what I hear?


Watch for further scheduling, and here is the location.

http://www.bradytheater.com/maps1.htm

All interested mechanics should begin preparations to attend this debate.

We know vacation days are scarce at AA due to "without further ratification" dictators. But you will not want to miss this one.

Contact Tulsa AMFA/AA Organizers for further details.

ALL MECHANICS NEED TO COME TO THE AID OF THE PROFESSION!

What happened Informer. . .jump the gun a bit?

 

[mojo13]

The date on the document is December 22nd.
I guess you will have to ask the guys at 514 explain it to you.

 

[Checking it Out]

A Sign of despiration on AMFA's Part!!!! This display of posting a letter dated tomorrow is a sign of the continued failure of amfa and deserves no response.

It's obvious with the plea of money in recent days and the lack of cards coming in amfa is utterly going down in failure!!!!

You guys are pathetic, A typical ploy with no merit. Your last meeting in Tulsa was an utter failure along with the many other meetings. The smart choice is the members and they have continued to not sign cards. Amfa has failed for 40 years and will continue to fail.

A clear sign of despiration, meeting in January!!!!!!!!

 

[TWU informer]

I have an e-mail that notified me of confirmation of the Brady Theater being secured. The e-mail has other strategies involved so I will not post it now, but I will later.

I was also requested to notify supporters about the debate.

There was no "jumping the gun",

IT'S CALLED KEEPING MEMBERS INFORMED, SOMETHING THE TWU KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT. THAT IS WHY YOU ARE CONFUSED.

 

[TWU informer]

A Sign of despiration on AMFA's Part!!!! This display of posting a letter dated tomorrow is a sign of the continued failure of amfa and deserves no response.

It's obvious with the plea of money in recent days and the lack of cards coming in amfa is utterly going down in failure!!!!

You guys are pathetic, A typical ploy with no merit. Your last meeting in Tulsa was an utter failure along with the many other meetings. The smart choice is the members and they have continued to not sign cards. Amfa has failed for 40 years and will continue to fail.

A clear sign of despiration, meeting in January!!!!!!!!

Dated When?

Can You Say STUPID?

Last I checked TODAY is December 22, 2003

You have something different CIO?

Are you on crack this evening?


CIO, call the TWU International as ask if they recieved the notice via fax TODAY. If need be, I will get a copy the fax, that will date,time, adn phon number sent. Can you spin your way out that pal?

 

[TWU informer]

8454 Total Signed Election Authorization Cards by Station and Title Group:
Updated, Monday December 22, 2003 at 12:15:16 PM.


And as the TWU clan remains in denial, the card count keeps rising and Sonny Hall is afraid to debate Delle-Femine.

You fools will never spin your way out of this one, Truth will prevail again.

 

[mojo13]

I have an e-mail that notified me of confirmation of the Brady Theater being secured. The e-mail has other strategies involved so I will not post it now, but I will later.

I was also requested to notify supporters about the debate.

There was no "jumping the gun",

IT'S CALLED KEEPING MEMBERS INFORMED, SOMETHING THE TWU KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT. THAT IS WHY YOU ARE CONFUSED.

Well, you just go to that one then and don't worry about ours.

 

[Bob Owens]

From Bob,
Why is it that when we ask questions you guys abandon the thread? But what else should we expect from the TWU/ATD?


Oh please, I just answered you and you cried about it. What's the point Bob??? You don't debate, you hassle and complain that we don't give you exactly what you want to hear. You ramble on and on and on and on and on but don't get a thing accomplished. Why do you do that by the way?? AMFA is no good Bob. And the facts are clear. You just refuse to look at them.

Sorry I missed it, could you refresh my memory and tell me when you replied to those questions?

If you have the "facts" why dont you share them with us?

Oh and by the way I recieved an E-mail from a UAL mechanic today who said that our drive is going just like theirs did. Well thats good news because we know how theirs turned out.

TWUer, whats wrong with the idea of all the mechanics in one union?

AMFA card count-over 8400

AGW card count 1100, not a bad start. JFK has just started filling them out.

Imagine losing over a third of your members in one year!

 

[TWU informer]

I have an e-mail that notified me of confirmation of the Brady Theater being secured. The e-mail has other strategies involved so I will not post it now, but I will later.

I was also requested to notify supporters about the debate.

There was no "jumping the gun",

IT'S CALLED KEEPING MEMBERS INFORMED, SOMETHING THE TWU KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT. THAT IS WHY YOU ARE CONFUSED.

Well, you just go to that one then and don't worry about ours.

Have you even bothered to officially notify AMFA or the organinzing committee?

Or was this a TWU/Pr Firm ploy to head us off at the pass, to cover for the coward Bus Driver in New York City?

The Truth is AMFA notified TWU of the up and coming challenge of a debate once 50% wwas reached at the September Info Meeting (Sheraton Hotel). It is all on video and you have even watched it. Right?

Do I need to upload the video clip to prove this fact?

 

[twuer]

I have an e-mail that notified me of confirmation of the Brady Theater being secured. The e-mail has other strategies involved so I will not post it now, but I will later.

I was also requested to notify supporters about the debate.

There was no "jumping the gun",

IT'S CALLED KEEPING MEMBERS INFORMED, SOMETHING THE TWU KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT. THAT IS WHY YOU ARE CONFUSED.

But as normal your information is wrong!

You posted the info on the 20th, right? But you are just now, this evening of the 22nd, posting the letter from Delle. Which just so happens to be the day that the TWU releases their information. You must have some good connections Dave, oops I mean Informer.

And who's mixed up??

So are you saying that there will 2 debates? One at the Renaissance and one at the Brady? That's what it sounds like to me.

Oh, are you not happy with the terms the TWU has come up with? What, you can't find 6 rank-and-file members to represent you? I think it should be fairly entertaining. Do you think you guys can control yourselves this time??

 

[Rusty]

I find it totally amazing that the TWU is in such dire straights and one of the reasons is because of the lies and deception. Yet even to the last day they cannot deviate in their form. I suppose this means any hope that a fence sitter could have had will be thrown out the window for change from within!!! Just totally amazing!!!

 

[Rusty]

I have an e-mail that notified me of confirmation of the Brady Theater being secured. The e-mail has other strategies involved so I will not post it now, but I will later.

I was also requested to notify supporters about the debate.

There was no "jumping the gun",

IT'S CALLED KEEPING MEMBERS INFORMED, SOMETHING THE TWU KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT. THAT IS WHY YOU ARE CONFUSED.

But as normal your information is wrong!

You posted the info on the 20th, right? But you are just now, this evening of the 22nd, posting the letter from Delle. Which just so happens to be the day that the TWU releases their information. You must have some good connections Dave, oops I mean Informer.

And who's mixed up??

So are you saying that there will 2 debates? One at the Renaissance and one at the Brady? That's what it sounds like to me.

Oh, are you not happy with the terms the TWU has come up with? What, you can't find 6 rank-and-file members to represent you? I think it should be fairly entertaining. Do you think you guys can control yourselves this time??

You don’t think the entire base has heard the date. LMAO I am still amazed how you people think the membership is so stupid. How can you people be so naive??? Go ahead spin it up best you can, gotta love it.

 

[TWU informer]

OK, for you liars out there trying spin your asses off.

----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: ********@****.*** ; *********@airmail.net ; aa******@hotmail.acom ; ********@aol.com ; ******@comcast.net ; ********@gbronline.com
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 8:08 AM
Subject: Brady Theatre


Gentlemen:
We have locked in the BT for the 17th. A check is going out Monday. Before we distribute the debate notices, I will need the proper name and title of Sonny Hall and his address. Once we receive that then we will proceed with the distribution of literature

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Please advise. Can we ****. Thanks. Dell

Please starting contacting the supporters systemwide, including KC about the debate on the January 17 date.

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[mojo13]

Gee, TWU informer. Your kinda thin skinned aren't you.

Grrrrrrrrr