Well I was the only AMFA supporter at the 4:00pm meeting today so here is my side of the story on the meeting first off there were 200 people there and anyone who says otherwise is a
flat out liarmany were from other Airlines no doubt former IAM officers there were many officers from several stations many looked to me like retirees also, basically there was only one question asked that was negative obout the TWU probably had something to do with the fact that there was only one AMFA supporter there, this was the question: my definition of Democracy is that the members vote on an issue and the majority wins is this your definition as well Jim, his reply was yes, then the question was that local 514 members voted down a new Union hall 4 times and the local leadership ( Randy Mcdonald ) said he was going to build it anyway, what do you think about that Jim, his reply was that the locals are autonomous and that the International does not get involved in local issues, the reply to that was well we are allways being told that we are the Union and if we are the Union when we vote no on something
NO means NO period Jims reply was that we elected the officers to make certain decisions for us that are in our best interest, he then said that he does believe in democracy.
Basically in my opinion his answers were a bunch of crap and if he does not believe that the members are the Union and what they say goes then he does not believe in Democracy he believes in Dictatorship there is a difference
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The questioner was then slammed by the next questioner as he asked a question that made the TWU look bad and that was unacceptable in this particular meeting, the original questioner tried to return to the mike to answer the slams but the moderator not being impartial as he was suppose to be did not allow it.
Basically the meeting was a complete joke, in my opinion what is happening is that most everybody has allready made up their minds as to what organization they are going to vote for that explains why Jim Little the Director of the ATD could come to a meeting and only 200 people show up, that is about half of what showed up to the last TWU meeting the same is happening at the AMFA meeting less and less people are showing up for these meetings, I think the message the membership is sending is clear we allready know what organization we are going to vote for whether it be TWU or AMFA and we don't need to hear anymore talk we are ready to vote, winner takes all.
Jim Little said only two things at this meeting that I agreed with one was that the TWU was not going to give anymore concessions that from now on the concessions will have to come from management, the second was that this was the last chance for
ANY debates period.
He said there will be no more debates offered or accepted I was very glad to hear this as I for one am very tired of this back and fourth debate game, I said all along that neither side really wanted a debate and that the offers were nothing more than posturing on both sides, there is no way that Delle and Jim Little could ever agree on a place, time , moderator, and rules as to who could come etc. these debates never had a chance and we all know it, since the meeting attendees on both sides is dwindling I figure that the next AMFA meeting will probably have about 150 members since the last had 300 and the next TWU meeting will have about 100 members since this last one had 200 members, I will not be at anymore AMFA or TWU meeting as I like most people have allready made up my mind as to what group I am going to vote for and I do not need to see any debate or hear any more from meetings, The time for talking is over, Gentlemen we have had the oppertunity to hear from both sides and now it is time to vote and stop wasting money on meetings that no one goes to.
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This of course if just my opinion
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So please continue with the pointless back and fourth chicken taunts that have no merit in fact.
I know how both sides like to call each other chicken and I would not want to take that away from anyone
