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According to that article richmond and greensboro are just 2 of the most heavily travelled routes out of nyc at least thats how I saw it in the article. But us mad roa work and dl admitted that
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see the list of the top markets from LGA which 700 posted in the US forum
ROA is in US' historic market strength area of the SE. The small cities which AA is cutting are in DL strength markets while the ones they are adding are ones where US has traditionally been stronger or able to compete alongside DL.
ROA is in US' historic market strength area of the SE. The small cities which AA is cutting are in DL strength markets while the ones they are adding are ones where US has traditionally been stronger or able to compete alongside DL.
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Ive seen that list a few times I just find it ironic that dl could not fill a 50 seater most of the time yet the new aa is restartin that route. Theire also going to gso and ric which are heavily travelled markets to and from nyc
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who says AA is going to succeed?
Still doesn't change that AA is walking away from some of the top markets in order to compete in smaller markets. what kind of strategy is that other than what AA and US have both done in NYC for years - and why US ended up giving away its slots to DL. And yes they gave them away.
Still doesn't change that AA is walking away from some of the top markets in order to compete in smaller markets. what kind of strategy is that other than what AA and US have both done in NYC for years - and why US ended up giving away its slots to DL. And yes they gave them away.
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Gave them away?
Why do you post lies and misinformation when you know everyone on here can prove you wrong.
There was a legal and binding contract that was approved by the DOJ and DOT that US and DL exchanged slots between DCA and LGA, and a South American slot and cash that Delta had to transfer to US was part of the deal.
So once again, why do you lie?
Why do you post lies and misinformation when you know everyone on here can prove you wrong.
There was a legal and binding contract that was approved by the DOJ and DOT that US and DL exchanged slots between DCA and LGA, and a South American slot and cash that Delta had to transfer to US was part of the deal.
So once again, why do you lie?
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Who says delta will continue to succeed? Just cuz they're doin it now doesnt mean theyll continue
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No. That was all Spectator.comatose said:
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Thank you 700 for the link
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I don't think they're willingly giving up the current LGA and DCA slots. They were more or less forced to do it. I'm pretty sure AA/US would love to keep all these slots.WorldTraveler said:
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We know that AA/US didn't want to give up slots but US talked for years about merging with someone and then did the slot swap w DL which gave US 55 percent of DCA slots.
As I said would happen, the DOJ would not allow AA/US to grow DCA above US' levels.
Thus US' failure to think thru both the slot swap and merger means they gave their LGA slots to DL for free.
As I said would happen, the DOJ would not allow AA/US to grow DCA above US' levels.
Thus US' failure to think thru both the slot swap and merger means they gave their LGA slots to DL for free.
I have to agree that this looks an awful lot like déjà vu.
Wasn't the slot swap rationalized in part because US couldn't successfully compete against AA and DL at LGA? Now that Parker is CEO of the world's largest airline, and gains a bunch of LGA slots, what does he do? Add flights to key business markets like HOU and mid-sized markets like IND? Nope.
Instead, he cancels LGA-ATL and re-starts flights to nowheresvilles like CHO and ROA (23 PDEW and 26 PDEW, respectively). Nearly all of the new adds from LGA are cities already served by DL and all are cities that US served until the slot swap - rationalized because those small towns couldn't support larger equipment. Those cities didn't make the cut in 2009 when US admitted that it couldn't fly profitably in NYC, and here they are again.
As to DCA, well, new AA just relinquished more DCA slots than US acquired in the slot swap, so that was a completely wasted transaction. Yes, US got $65 million and a GRU frequency, which DL quickly replaced for free in the next route case. All 52 DCA slot pairs are air carrier slots, so the competition will be able to fly 52 competing flights every day with mainline equipment. That's going to temper any possible high fares at DCA, except to the various nowheresvilles that new AA will continue to serve.
DL got the best of the Parker/Kirby brain trust in the slot swap, and I have to believe that R Anderson and friends were celebrating again this week.
Wasn't the slot swap rationalized in part because US couldn't successfully compete against AA and DL at LGA? Now that Parker is CEO of the world's largest airline, and gains a bunch of LGA slots, what does he do? Add flights to key business markets like HOU and mid-sized markets like IND? Nope.
Instead, he cancels LGA-ATL and re-starts flights to nowheresvilles like CHO and ROA (23 PDEW and 26 PDEW, respectively). Nearly all of the new adds from LGA are cities already served by DL and all are cities that US served until the slot swap - rationalized because those small towns couldn't support larger equipment. Those cities didn't make the cut in 2009 when US admitted that it couldn't fly profitably in NYC, and here they are again.
As to DCA, well, new AA just relinquished more DCA slots than US acquired in the slot swap, so that was a completely wasted transaction. Yes, US got $65 million and a GRU frequency, which DL quickly replaced for free in the next route case. All 52 DCA slot pairs are air carrier slots, so the competition will be able to fly 52 competing flights every day with mainline equipment. That's going to temper any possible high fares at DCA, except to the various nowheresvilles that new AA will continue to serve.
DL got the best of the Parker/Kirby brain trust in the slot swap, and I have to believe that R Anderson and friends were celebrating again this week.
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