AA begins FA recalls

[kirkpatrick]

Kirkpatric, what # are you ??????

This recall takes away about half the people ahead of me, moving me from #471 as of 3/31/07 to somewhere around #260 once the dust settles. And I agree with those who predict a low return rate among those offered reemployment. Remember, the youngest of the 103 TWA people included in this recall is 59, and the oldest 73. Most will be facing a commute, and will be on reserve every fourth month for the foreseeable future. So while I'm very happy for L1011ret's wife and others I know who will return, I predict fewer than half actually will.

As for the 75 the company says it needs to cover attrition for the year, that is such a joke it's pitiful. Attrition for April alone was 47, and an additional 120-130 will quit before these recallees even get on an airplane beginning 7/24/07. I think they're just testing the waters; getting a feel for the rate of return before calling more back. They wouldn't recall if they didn't need people, and 75 just doesn't cut it.

Time will tell. The next few months should be interesting.

MK

 

[FWAAA]

As for the 75 the company says it needs to cover attrition for the year, that is such a joke it's pitiful. Attrition for April alone was 47, and an additional 120-130 will quit before these recallees even get on an airplane beginning 7/24/07. I think they're just testing the waters; getting a feel for the rate of return before calling more back. They wouldn't recall if they didn't need people, and 75 just doesn't cut it.

Interesting points - but I'm chronically cynical.

How many FAs won't be needed once the 19 ex-TWA 752s are returned this year and early next? Seems that would soak up some of the "attrition shortage."

Add to that the likelihood that AA might ground another 20-30 MD-80s (more likely if fuel stays high) and that puts some more slack in the system.

I'm glad to see the recalls beginning, but I'm skeptical that they will continue. Love to be wrong, however.

 

[L1011Ret]

According to AA they are going to increase flying time in the 4th quarter.

 

[kirkpatrick]

According to AA they are going to increase flying time in the 4th quarter.

That is certainly good news, and bodes well for more recalls.

As for the 19 TWA 757's FWAAA mentions, things seem to be reaching the critical stage now. Next year is a different subject. Attrition will take several hundred more before the last 757 goes back.

MK

 

[s80dude]

Welcome back to those returning!

 

[QQ3270]

Welcome back to those returning!

Yes wecome back to the aa f/A'sand former TWA f/as

 

[AAStew]

Yes wecome back to the aa f/A'sand former TWA f/as

I know you meant only good, but let's remember they are ALL AA f/a's.

 

[nbmcg01]

I know you meant only good, but let's remember they are ALL AA f/a's.

THANK YOU!!!!!

 

[donttouchthebeauty]

Congrats and this is excellent news. However I do have have a question? How many people are on the recall list total? Attrition has been pretty steady at AA like every other airline. I wonder why AA has waited till near the end b/f doing a recall. This is just a thought but i have a feeling that they are making an "attempt" to do recalls b/c the 5 year point is nearing, and they will want to hire off the street. If AA makes no attempt at recalling and then hires off the street as soon as the furloughees drop off, There would serious chaos.. My guess is they are making an "attempt" to get people back b/f 5 year deadline.... I do hope I am wrong and they recall many more though... Congrats to those who go back in any case.

 

[kirkpatrick]

2122 remain on the list. The rest will drop off (unless recalled, of course) on the following dates:

10/13/2007 147
11/1/2007 430
1/31/2008 325
4/1/2008 317
5/1/2008 244
7/2/2008 995

The numbers dropping off are a bit high since my list is a couple of years old, but it is enough to give a general idea.

I think company is motivated by one force and one force only: they need the people to operate the schedule. I don't believe good public relations or political pressure have anything whatsoever to do with it. If they wanted to rehire a few dozen ex-TWA to show they weren't discriminating against us they could wait until June of 2008, they wouldn't have to do it now.

Let's hope I'm right and more will soon follow.

MK

 

[s80dude]

Maybe my reasoning is off a bit, but if they have started a recall, then there must be a need. So that mean we should see more recalls from here on out because the continued attrition will have an impact on manning.

How long will the training be for those returning?

 

[AC AA LA FA]

Maybe my reasoning is off a bit, but if they have started a recall, then there must be a need. So that mean we should see more recalls from here on out because the continued attrition will have an impact on manning.

How long will the training be for those returning?

Training should be 22 days at the GSWLC..I beleive

 

[Skymess]

I think company is motivated by one force and one force only: they need the people to operate the schedule. If they wanted to rehire a few dozen ex-TWA to show they weren't discriminating against us they could wait until June of 2008, they wouldn't have to do it now.

Let's hope I'm right and more will soon follow.

MK

Let's hope you are right.

Good luck to everyone returning and those who wish to return in the future.

I think more senior people will return than some people think. I fly with mostly senior people who are in their late 50's to mid 70's out of IDF and they are the most energetic, professional, and courteous people I have flown with at AA.

I'm looking forward to the recall of the senior FA's from TWA. The original stews know how to do things the way they are supposed to be done.

I agree with the person who wrote that the divisiveness will most likely come to an end now that the two work groups will be qualified on the same equipment without fenced off bases.

 

[kirkpatrick]

Training should be 22 days at the GSWLC..I beleive

Training will be 18 days; three five-day weeks and the first three days of the fourth week for a total elapsed time of 23 days. Those natives once qualified on the 777 and A300 will stay an extra day or two to requalify on those aircraft.

MK

 

[czerny]

Hi, those of you flying in LGA will be pleased to know that most of the people accepting recall in my class have chosen LGA. In class 2001-06, 4 have chosen to stay at AE, one has been accepted to Southwest and another has already gone to another airline.So, for those of you still on the recall list, you'll be moving up very quickly. One of my classmates is going to "try" it out for a couple months and decide wether to ditch flying for nursing school or not.
If you are currently in a crashpad in LGA/JFK, please let us know as a bunch of us will be needing a place. As far as I know, almost all of us are going to be commuters.