A330-200 Envoy updates?

[Travelpro72]

Well again, I don't believe the arbitrator will require management to purchase the pods and do all of the reconfiguring for them. I believe we'll have some sort of partitioned seating that is true flat seats. I know she isn't sold on sleeping while sitting up. Even a sleep study will show that for TRUE rest you must be in a flat position. It will be interesting to see. I'd love to have one of those pods down below but honestly I just want to rest in a seat that is flat. I see some passenger seats being removed somewhere.

 

[700UW]

Travelpro,

It happened at CO and the IAM prevailed and CO had to retrofit several 777s.

 

[beachboy]

According to Boy Wonder it will be a moot point if we get the pods. He will take his 330-200 and go home. I still want to be a fly on the wall for that meeting with the Israeli government.
The company's sleep expert testified that you are not really sleeping or "resting" when sitting upright. Your body exerts effort to maintain posture and to keep your head upright. They tried to close testimony but , Opps too late! The arbitrator is now calling in actually Flight Attendants to testify. They also lied in the arbitration about the only a/c to fly that route. Two days later they did the DL swap with advertisements of PHX-Japan with future A350's. Arbitrator struck all that testimony from the record as "misleading" AKA...lies.
Mid December should be interesting to say the least.

 

[NAPAUS]

According to Boy Wonder it will be a moot point if we get the pods. He will take his 330-200 and go home. I still want to be a fly on the wall for that meeting with the Israeli government.
The company's sleep expert testified that you are not really sleeping or "resting" when sitting upright. Your body exerts effort to maintain posture and to keep your head upright. They tried to close testimony but , Opps too late! The arbitrator is now calling in actually Flight Attendants to testify. They also lied in the arbitration about the only a/c to fly that route. Two days later they did the DL swap with advertisements of PHX-Japan with future A350's. Arbitrator struck all that testimony from the record as "misleading" AKA...lies.
Mid December should be interesting to say the least.

This is GREAT News! TEMPE should never have been allowed ( AFA ) to even entertain the thought of not having flat (sleep) crew rest. UAL'S AFA is the leader in this fight...US AFA is amateur and always will be- they need to take lessons for other UNIONS. FIGHT for the right things, like this. Lets hope the F/A's prevail. Cant wait to hear the outcome.

 

[SS255]

Well again, I don't believe the arbitrator will require management to purchase the pods and do all of the reconfiguring for them. I believe we'll have some sort of partitioned seating that is true flat seats. I know she isn't sold on sleeping while sitting up. Even a sleep study will show that for TRUE rest you must be in a flat position. It will be interesting to see. I'd love to have one of those pods down below but honestly I just want to rest in a seat that is flat. I see some passenger seats being removed somewhere.

I took a maintenance tour of the LH facility in FRA a couple of weeks ago. They took us into an empty 747 and A340, and allowed us to see the crew rest areas. I have never seen a dedicated crew rest area before, but I will say that those little rooms are very claustrophobic. You cannot even stand up straight in them, and some of the berths are not long enough for average-sized people.

I would much prefer lie-flat seats in one of the passenger cabins than an isolated crew rest area away from the masses. I guess what you sacrifice in comfort you get back in privacy, but I'd much prefer the comfort.

 

[PHL]

I recently flew a domestic route on AA in row 17 of their 767-300 which is a compartmentalized row sandwiched between a lav in front and bulkhead behind. The seats are coach width, but recline about 160 degrees, have leg and foot rests and are closed off from the cabin with a curtain. It's a very intimate compartment, but I enjoyed it greatly (since I didn't get my upgrade to a NGBC seat anyway)

This is what the crew sleeps in on international flights. I found them pretty comfortable, actually. I wonder if US would implement something like this.....

 

[beachboy]

I think Air Lingus has an enclosed compartment that extends off the lavs in the middle and 3L/R I say take rows 24 25 26 seats CDEF and make an Iglu like they have. It's like the POD but just in the main cabin. The biggest issue is sound and being bumped through the curtains.

 

[FA Mikey]

I recently flew a domestic route on AA in row 17 of their 767-300 which is a compartmentalized row sandwiched between a lav in front and bulkhead behind. The seats are coach width, but recline about 160 degrees, have leg and foot rests and are closed off from the cabin with a curtain.

An insert under the foot rest, sits it up higher. then add 4 F/C pillow and duvets to each seat to make a seriously comfortable bed.

 

[Dog Wonder]

2 in Mar, 2 in May, 1 in Aug, 1 in Oct, 1 in Dec. This according to About US dated Sep 17th 09.

Now its two A-330s in 2010.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Now its two A-330s in 2010.

References?

 

[FutureUScapt]

References?

US to Postpone Deliveries

Sp much for the comment in the CrewNews session a few weeks ago that all the A332s had been financed for next year...

 

[nycbusdriver]

US to Postpone Deliveries

Sp much for the comment in the CrewNews session a few weeks ago that all the A332s had been financed for next year...

Thanks for the link.

I am at a loss to figure out how delaying delivery of aircraft is a way for a carrier to position itself to take full advantage of a recovering economy and renewed air travel. I understand the need to postpone this if cash is too tight, but using the "positioning itself" excuse makes no sense to me. I guess they had to say something, so best to obfuscate. In the words of that great airline leader, Gordon Bethune, "Banana."

 

[88 B.T.D.]

I am at a loss to figure out how delaying delivery of aircraft is a way for a carrier to position itself to take full advantage of a recovering economy and renewed air travel.

It is a gamble (educated) that it will cost less to borrow money in 3 years than it does today. I actually think its a good decision too.

 

[jimntx]

An insert under the foot rest, sits it up higher. then add 4 F/C pillow and duvets to each seat to make a seriously comfortable bed.

Just because you're no longer with us doesn't mean you can go blabbing the trade secrets. That is strictly confidential information.

 

[FWAAA]

It is a gamble (educated) that it will cost less to borrow money in 3 years than it does today. I actually think its a good decision too.

US didn't defer these planes because interest rates are too high today. This deferral is a recognition that cash is extremely tight (Barclays just granted US another relaxation in its loan terms) and that US may not have enough cash to weather this winter if the deliveries continued. The driver was cash preservation, not a hope that today's low interest rates (for creditworthy customers) are even lower in three years.

I assume that Barclays demanded these delivery deferrals as a condition to the waivers it granted US:

Also, the Company has agreed with Barclays to permanently lower the monthly unrestricted cash condition precedent for the advance purchase of frequent flyer miles and defer for 14 months the amortization of $200 million advanced in connection with the previous purchase of miles.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/US-Airways-C...ml?x=0&.v=1

Banks generally impose onerous demands on cash-poor borrowers when those borrowers show up, hat in hand, asking for extensions and for reductions in their loan covenants.