2015 Fleet Service thread

[robbedagain]

I agree with you bro   I think the Association is doing great by going line by line, article by article  in getting us the best deal possible..  I do not trust Parker period  If no concessions  then why in some out stations such as mine are they converting LUS airbus flights to PHX to LAA 738 metal  thus eliminating the need for LUS catering   That is how I see them sneaking by the contract and the start of getting rid of catering   I really hope Im wrong on this but I know our 505pm PHX trip is now a LAA 738  and in June  around the 1st??  we will have both of our PHX trips LAA 738 and the flex flight will so far be an A320 or 321  but it not daily   and not sure how long itll stay an airbus.

 

[WeAAsles]

I agree with you bro   I think the Association is doing great by going line by line, article by article  in getting us the best deal possible..  I do not trust Parker period  If no concessions  then why in some out stations such as mine are they converting LUS airbus flights to PHX to LAA 738 metal  thus eliminating the need for LUS catering   That is how I see them sneaking by the contract and the start of getting rid of catering   I really hope Im wrong on this but I know our 505pm PHX trip is now a LAA 738  and in June  around the 1st??  we will have both of our PHX trips LAA 738 and the flex flight will so far be an A320 or 321  but it not daily   and not sure how long itll stay an airbus.

It doesn't sound to me as if our guys are in too much of accommodating mood to talk about giving up any work. The company likes to come out and say well their competition doesn't do this or that but I don't think that should be an issue if we're looking to raise the bar, which is something I think our group can do.

I'm extremely interested in watching what happens this Friday with the UAL vote? Securing those stations and express work is absolutely a step back in the right direction. It's going to make our guys job a lot easier IMO for arguing to maintain work for our group when maybe you compare the numbers? Everything to the company is a numbers game but they like to separate the pieces and that doesn't paint the entire picture.

I might be crazy to think this but I think we should be able to capture even more work back. There have been multiple quality issues attached to these sub contractors and to be truly competitive in this industry now it's going to be all about customer service or the customer experience. The airlines are far better served by keeping the work in house and not having to deal with a third party that hasn't been living up to expectations.

Anyway we'll see what happens.

Also if we and United can raise the bar maybe that will help our non union Delta counterparts to achieve gains. I've heard from multiple sources that they're getting murdered on those Ready Reserve numbers. Pay a man crap and all you're going to get back is crap. Cheerleading is for High School dimwits, not men.

 

[WeAAsles]

700 when you get a chance can you explain to the readers what you were telling me about the costs associated with Sky Chefs doing the entire catering operation as opposed to at least part of it being done in house?

 

[robbedagain]

agree WeAA  itll be  interesting to see how UA folks vote on their TA   if it passes  then Id have to say it would raise our bars somewhat to be on par with them and DL   not to mention WN

 

[Worldport]

I agree with you bro   I think the Association is doing great by going line by line, article by article  in getting us the best deal possible..  I do not trust Parker period  If no concessions  then why in some out stations such as mine are they converting LUS airbus flights to PHX to LAA 738 metal  thus eliminating the need for LUS catering   That is how I see them sneaking by the contract and the start of getting rid of catering   I really hope Im wrong on this but I know our 505pm PHX trip is now a LAA 738  and in June  around the 1st??  we will have both of our PHX trips LAA 738 and the flex flight will so far be an A320 or 321  but it not daily   and not sure how long itll stay an airbus.

Robbed I highly doubt they are converting aircraft for the purpose of getting rid of catering probably the farthest thing from their mind when making the decision

 

[robbedagain]

you could very well be right   but when being in a smaller city with 2 daily PHX trips and have your own catering vs LSG (LAA flights) I cant help but to think this is a sneaky way to get rid of catering in out cities

 

[700UW]

Catering companies charge a fee just to show up to the plane,stocking fees and also charge per door visit.

Also they add a surcharge to all products stocked, unlike when an airline uses its own equipment, provisions and employees.

 

[Worldport]

Catering companies charge a fee just to show up to the plane,stocking fees and also charge per door visit.

Also they add a surcharge to all products stocked, unlike when an airline uses its own equipment, provisions and employees.

A meal could cost 3 dollars yet it could cost 20 dollars to deliver it. It is truly something ridiculous like that, same thing with ice

 

[WeAAsles]

Catering companies charge a fee just to show up to the plane,stocking fees and also charge per door visit.
Also they add a surcharge to all products stocked, unlike when an airline uses its own equipment, provisions and employees.

Thank you 700. I removed one of the red marks given to you by the little juvenile panzy arses that need to follow you around. No they can't debate your facts so they have to whack you with pebbles from behind the trees.

Pretty pathetic little lot if you ask me.

 

[WeAAsles]

A meal could cost 3 dollars yet it could cost 20 dollars to deliver it. It is truly something ridiculous like that, same thing with ice

If the costs are that high then it's ridiculous not to bring the jobs back in house? Maybe Skychef considers themselves to be a monopoly and can charge all sorts of ridiculous rates.

I'm sure it wouldn't take us too long to learn how to do that job in the TWU AA stations.

 

[Worldport]

If the costs are that high then it's ridiculous not to bring the jobs back in house? Maybe Skychef considers themselves to be a monopoly and can charge all sorts of ridiculous rates.

I'm sure it wouldn't take us too long to learn how to do that job in the TWU AA stations.

I'm sure they studied it, those medical costs are high what about a kitchen and trucks?.....Sorry Weaasles no tit job for you

 

[700UW]

You dont need a kitchen, US doesnt own nor use a kitchen, they have a Catering Department with warehouses, and in CLT LSG just prepares the meals, at their kitchen and US employees go pick it up.
 
The warehouse, has all the supplies, needed for catering, except the meals.

 

[Worldport]

You dont need a kitchen, US doesnt own nor use a kitchen, they have a Catering Department with warehouses, and in CLT LSG just prepares the meals, at their kitchen and US employees go pick it up.
 
The warehouse, has all the supplies, needed for catering, except the meals.

Perhaps but I can't recall any airline bringing catering in house. in fact the airlines that owned their own caterers  spun them off I thing AA used to own Skychef thats when you and the Weez were smoking in the boys room

 

[700UW]

UA still owns Chelsea Catering, which was CO.

And WN has its own provisioning agents also.

At the least AA should have its own catering at the hubs and focus cities to cut costs by bringing it in-house.

 

[Worldport]

UA still owns Chelsea Catering, which was CO.

And WN has its own provisioning agents also.

At the least AA should have its own catering at the hubs and focus cities to cut costs by bringing it in-house.

Does WN serve meals or is it still just a peanut thing. They could probably save a fortune if they brought in some icemakers but they won't and you also know it is highly unlikely they will bring anything in house. 9/11 hurt the catering companies especially in the domestic market although the trend is looking up