2014 Pilot Discussion

[EastUS1]

I'll push your buttons for stirring the pot while you're sitting there on the Jumpseat to Philly. It's part of my 10000' flow.

 
"It's part of my 10000' flow." That's a strange idea, but If that's what you "think" then perhaps a referral for remedial training is past due. There's NO excuse for anyone to ever conduct themselves as a belligerent child in any passenger carrying aircraft cockpit anywhere, period. If "you'se" can't even manage civil hopsitality to a jump seat rider; you're in the wrong business. Grow up.

 

[cltrat]

 
"It's part of my 10000' flow." That's a strange idea, but If that's what you "think" then perhaps a referral for remedial training is past due. There's NO excuse for anyone to ever conduct themselves as a belligerent child in any passenger carrying aircraft cockpit anywhere, period. If "you'se" can't even manage civil hopsitality to a jump seat rider; you're in the wrong business. Grow up.

just hope he doesn't hit the missile launch button on that A320 or is it an F320?

 

[EastUS1]

just hope he doesn't hit the missile launch button on that A320 or is it an F320?

 
An understandable concern, given the wholesale ferocity of "spartans" in general, but I believe you're confusing him with yet another of their "soldiers," their self-styled "A320 Fighter Pilot."

 

[Phoenix]

Almost $1Billion again last quarter...

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102114258

But the company is in peril if we don't give concessions on scope.

 

[EastUS1]

Almost $1Billion again last quarter...

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102114258

But the company is in peril if we don't give concessions on scope.

 
Chip and/or traderjake should be along any minute to correct your clearly ridiculous ideas and yet once again explain why there's never even any hope, a mere $1Billion be damned, and how the best possible course of action was/is always to don knee pads and "surrender" yesterday anyway.
 
"2. There is a clear and painful US Airways history, especially for our pilot group, that when a union publicly draws a line in the sand often times the result is the company takes an action that hurts us (i.e. loss of the DB Plan, LOA 93 being worse than the company's ask, 19.33 percent loss of equity, etc). Will that happen here?

3. Will the 81-seat rejection provide an incentive to the Company to divert aircraft acquisition capital from Group 2, 3, and 4 aircraft purchases/leases to acquire more E-190s instead of larger aircraft?
 
Regards
 
Chip"

 

[cltrat]

 
Chip and/or traderjake should be along any minute to correct your clearly ridiculous ideas and yet once again explain why there's never even any hope, a mere $1Billion be damned, and how the best possible course of action was/is always to don knee pads and "surrender" yesterday anyway.
 
"2. There is a clear and painful US Airways history, especially for our pilot group, that when a union publicly draws a line in the sand often times the result is the company takes an action that hurts us (i.e. loss of the DB Plan, LOA 93 being worse than the company's ask, 19.33 percent loss of equity, etc). Will that happen here?

3. Will the 81-seat rejection provide an incentive to the Company to divert aircraft acquisition capital from Group 2, 3, and 4 aircraft purchases/leases to acquire more E-190s instead of larger aircraft?
 
Regards
 
Chip"

he must be a eunuch

 

[EastUS1]

he must be a eunuch

 
Hey! Watch it! That's probably "racist" by today's standards...or at the very least an onerous insult to self-respecting eunuchs everywhere...Just sayin'...

 

[nevergiveup]

I see Delta is using the 717 in Charlottesville and Tri-Cities. Wake up-DP. Or you could just ride a dash-8.(great plane for sleeping, kind of like a mazda...hmmmmm...)

 

[Hawkhunter]

Oh Catpiss, you have such an ego. Your big mouth is getting old punk.

 

[snapthis]

October 24, 2014

Leonidas Update

Yesterday, attorneys for the West pilots filed a Motion to Dismiss Leonidas, LLC from USAPA's civil action in North Carolina. You can read the motion here. The purpose of the motion to dismiss is to ask the court to decide that the claim which USAPA filed against Leonidas, even if true as USAPA has alleged, is not one upon which the law offers a remedy.

With any motion to dismiss, there are several possibilities why the law cannot provide a remedy. Here, the West attorneys are arguing that: (1) the court lacks jurisdiction over Leonidas; and (2) that USAPA's complaint fails to show that USAPA is entitled to any sort of relief from Leonidas. Recall that last week the West attorneys removed USAPA's suit from North Carolina's state trial court to the Federal District Court, and shortly thereafter the case was assigned to a federal judge - the Honorable Robert J. Conrad. The effect of the removal was to take the entire case that USAPA originated in the state court, and transplant it to the federal court. USAPA's case now belongs entirely to Judge Conrad, and it is he who will adjudicate this Motion to Dismiss Leonidas, LLC, as well as USAPA's complaint and all other motions in the case. We do anticipate that USAPA will attempt to have their case remanded back to the state court, but again the decision to remand or not would belong to Judge Conrad.

The issue of dues disgorgement is not an East-West issue; we all were forced under an Agency Shop to pay union dues. Those dues were obviously to be used for collective bargaining purposes. It is both nonsensical and illegal for USAPA to retain and continue to spend the millions of dollars in our dues money when it no longer has any collective bargaining status. Contrary to what USAPA implied in its suit, dues disgorgement is not a seniority issue. Rather, it is about getting our money back - East and West alike.

Remember to mark your calendars for the Meet and Greet on November 3rd, 3PM-6PM at the Crowne Plaza on 44th St. and Washington. Attorneys Jeff Freund, Marty Harper and Kelly Flood will be on hand to answer your questions. As always, spouses or significant others are welcome to attend.

That is all for now. Thank you for your unwavering support .

Sincerely,

Leonidas, LLC

 

[EastUS1]

Leonidas Update
 
The issue of dues disgorgement is not an East-West issue; .....

 
Sure it's not. Thanks for posting the joke of the day. How even the well-practiced liars at Leonidas could type such utterly nonsensical BS never ceases to amaze...

 

[nevergiveup]

Sounds like a fund raiser at the Crown Plaza to me!

 

[Phoenix]

Sounds like a fund raiser at the Crown Plaza to me!

Don't show up without the Liberty tie or they will make you chose between buying your personal liberty tie or being forcibly detained until you do....

Ya see, "Liberty matters".

 

[nycbusdriver]

October 24, 2014

Leonidas Update

...Those dues were obviously to be used for collective bargaining purposes. It is both nonsensical and illegal for USAPA to retain and continue to spend the millions of dollars in our dues money when it no longer has any collective bargaining status....

 
The dues were collected for representational issues, not only collective bargaining concerns.
 
Dues money was  spent on lawyers to fight you west morons off.  Was that "collective bargaining"?
 
Dues money was spent on CAPA.  Was that "collective bargaining"?
 
Dues money was spent on Harvey Watt.  Was that "collective bargaining"?
 
You idiots didn't complain about of lot of non-bargaining issues being dealt with by USAPA, but NOW it's all about USAPA's loss of collective bargaining status.
 
Is there any oxygen at all left in Phoenix?

 

[EastUS1]

 
The dues were collected for representational issues, not only collective bargaining concerns.
 
Dues money was  spent on lawyers to fight you west morons off.  Was that "collective bargaining"?
 
Dues money was spent on CAPA.  Was that "collective bargaining"?
 
Dues money was spent on Harvey Watt.  Was that "collective bargaining"?
 
You idiots didn't complain about of lot of non-bargaining issues being dealt with by USAPA, but NOW it's all about USAPA's loss of collective bargaining status.
 
Is there any oxygen at all left in Phoenix?

 
"Is there any oxygen at all left in Phoenix?" Was there much of any there to start with? Having seen and heard what we have these past seven plus years...well...a person just has to wonder...