2014 Pilot Discussion

[CactusPilot1]

And that will be without the NIC, your starting to figure it out, good for you!!

No Nic for me? Well, what if the next arbitrator is named Dic? You don't have the numbers this time to run away. Hopefully Karma will see you get Dic in arbitration. Who knows, you may wish you had Nic after you get Dic. Something tells me that's the way you tic. Right Claxon?

 

[luvthe9]

No Nic for me? Well, what if the next arbitrator is named Dic? You don't have the numbers this time to run away. Hopefully Karma will see you get Dic in arbitration. Who knows, you may wish you had Nic after you get Dic. Something tells me that's the way you tic. Right Claxon?

And what if it does not go to arbitration?, don't be surprised, APA will protect their guys from both east and west, I thought I was Courtney Spinthis. Geez make up your mind.

 

[CactusPilot1]

And what if it does not go to arbitration?, don't be surprised, APA will protect their guys from both east and west, I thought I was Courtney Spinthis. Geez make up your mind.

What does 2007 have to do with the acquisition in 2005?
I thought you had a 3-way going with Claxon and Hawkpus.

My mind is pretty much made up about that, Courtney.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Funny, As many pilots I have spoke with,I have NEVER EVER heard one say, they would rather have worked for America West. No mater where they were employed.

 
It's close, but I think I would have preferred AWA over Zantop.  

 

[Claxon]

 
"PHL is about to elect our first two representatives to the APA Board.  I believe that both Paul DiOrio and Paul Music have proven that they have the leadership qualities, can cooperate and work together as a team and have an understanding of the issues that the pilots require. 
 
They repeatedly demonstrated that they have the ability to work through the intricacies of this merger.  They refused to compromise so as to get this superior Protocol Agreement when it looked as if that would be impossible and others were thinking of caving in.  They did this by showing great foresight and helped plan the strategy of filing a pre-emptive Federal Law Suit, forcing the other parties to come to the table and sign off on a Protocol that would protect our seniority.  By insisting on McCaskill-Bond and by insisting we have the protections that were lacking in the MOU, they made sure those protections are clear and have precise language in this Protocol.
 
In addition, they have a very good working relationship with our Negotiating Committee.  The Negotiating Committee knows it can call either of them on any issue and get the support they need to pursue important items we need addressed in the on-going negotiations with the APA and the company.
 
As USAPA Reps, they were in on all of the important meetings with the APA and have developed a good working relationship with them.  They know who is strong and who is weak.  Who to trust and whom not to trust.  Who is looking out for all of the pilots and who is looking out for their own agenda.  Having this insight is incalculable.
 
As paramount as all this is, they have also developed a very good working relationship with the new PHL Chief Pilot.  This important aspect goes a long way when a pilot has a problem and his Chief Pilot and Union Reps can help sort it out.
 
We have entered another phase in the merger and we still have many outstanding issues that will need to be resolved, as well as seniority and a joint contract.  Having two men with the knowledge and experience and ability to work as a team along with the other east reps will be instrumental in our ability to be heard and our needs met.
 
Both Pauls were selected by the APA as designated Reps because they have developed a solid reputation, earned their respect and have a good working relationship with the other APA board members.  No small feat, as some on the other side would like to have us in a minor role in these negotiations.   
 
In my opinion, changing Reps at this time would require a period of time to bring anyone new up to speed and could jeopardize the progress they have already made.
 
Please vote for Paul DiOrio and Paul Music."

 

[squatch]

Yes Catpiss "Piedmont" was the most profitable airline in the world when I got hired by them. (80's)

 

[CactusPilot1]

Yes Catpiss "Piedmont" was the most profitable airline in the world when I got hired by them. (80's)

Why would I care? I'm living in 2014, you can keep your 8-tracks Apple II and Rubik's Cube.

Sasquatch, you must be related to hawkpus.

 

[Phoenix]

What does 2007 have to do with the acquisition in 2005?
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Why would I care? I'm living in 2014,..

 
If you are fishing for a snapshot, ask Marty about the effect of the MOU and the Protocol Agreement.  

 

[Claxon]

Why would I care? I'm living in 2014, you can keep your 8-tracks Apple II and Rubik's Cube.

Sasquatch, you must be related to hawkpus.

Frankly sir, you are living in 2005.  The days you were fresh out of ground school for america west.  The days of the ill fated nic award, we bought you, we saved you, the army of lyingitas will make me whole, marty and andy are legal geniuses and lets degrade the reputation of the other side to cover our mistakes.
 
You are living in the reality of the circumstances in 2014, holding the same seat and bidding position you held in 2005.  Time for a reality check is now.

 

[luvthe9]

Why would I care? I'm living in 2014, you can keep your 8-tracks Apple II and Rubik's Cube.
Sasquatch, you must be related to hawkpus.

Then you realize the NIC is no more, please help your friends understand, we will do our best to represent the USAir group, the APA will not TWA our group.

 

[EastUS1]

Give me a break. What makes you think you could have gotten an interview ...........?

 
Oh I dunno. Would four job offers from majors count?...And who ever imagined merely getting interviews was supposedly some grand feat? "What a joke."...? Seriously? "You'se" are the joke son, and you say far more about yourself with your personal projections than you realize.

 

[CactusPilot1]

If you are fishing for a snapshot, ask Marty about the effect of the MOU and the Protocol Agreement.

There's that word, agreement. In true Ucrapa form, we should see if we like the effects of said agreement and decide if it's binding or not. When that time comes, we'll run it by Marty.

 

[CactusPilot1]

Then you realize the NIC is no more, please help your friends understand, we will do our best to represent the USAir group, the APA will not TWA our group.

We will do our best to represent.....? I don't know of any other representation other than the APA.

 

[EastUS1]

Why would I care? I'm living in 2014, .....
 

 
Then perhaps it's past time to graciously relinquish your childish fantasies from 2005.

 

[Claxon]

We will do our best to represent.....? I don't know of any other representation other than the APA.

Another victim.  Past, present and future. 
 
Personal accountability, how quintessential.