2014 Pilot Discussion

[luvthe9]

Look in the mirror west pilot. Fact: you were offered the Nic with a reasonable time constraint. That time would have now passed. You would have the Nic.
You passed on the deal. Your airline was transacted. You gambled, you lost.
Face the unpleasant truth. You, screwed the pooch.
Fortunately, unlike Res Judicata, you will not be asked by a Federal agency if you actually did- and fail the test.

"Our former MEC and our union leadership played a very high stakes game of poker by not at Wye River. Freund was right, we were risking everything…..and right now, it looks like we lost. They need to take responsibility for that."



Man up son and take RESPONSIBILITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your leadership screwed you kids over.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

The West did risk everything but then again there are  so many players,  The Compass boys, couple have WEST COAST SELF interest, enough to be in bed with self interest to move WEST, and write letters and actually seek political gain ,!

 

[EastUS1]

Man up son....

 
Good luck with that ever happening from any "spartan"....The arbitrator!/My lawyers!/I'm righteous!....This is Sparta!...A more truly pathetic set of totally twisted and hopelessly infantile wimps I've never encountered.
 
Yes "spartans", that is intended goading. Won't some great "Ace" from your bunch at least accept a flying wager? Time's running out for "you'se" to prove your "worth" to the world, and I'm a few years past bored with the lot of "you'se", so....?
 
Princess Fergie, Gay, FBI polygraph boy, prechill, Cactus"Pilot"1, "capn' aux" or Johnny M. would be "you'se" biggest jokes to offer, but why doesn't at least "capn' aux" rise to this? Surely "he" can see the potential benefit to forever "proving" his "skills" to the world in eternally available video online?...? Would some "spartan" at least tell him how much that'd impress his teenaged blog buddies?
 
Seriously luvthe9?: "Man up son...." Where the "spartans" are concerned? Thanks for the laughs.

 

[luvthe9]

The West did risk everything but then again there are  so many players,  The Compass boys, couple have WEST COAST SELF interest, enough to be in bed with self interest to move WEST, and write letters and actually seek political gain ,!

Just wait till the rest of the Compass Clown stories come out.

 

[EastUS1]

Just wait till the rest of the Compass Clown stories come out.

 
I've never much judged anyone on "stories", but rather actual behavior, and mouthy, wholesale cowards have never favorably impressed me...

 

[EastUS1]

I've seen it all ...

 
Your posting history makes a lot abundantly clear. "You'se" clearly havent seen jack-point-zip in life yet kid. In fairness: Countless thousands of others have done much for "you'se",  in the hopes that such as yourself need never realize the less savory aspects of "it all". Two hints here:
 
1) This world is a whole lot bigger than PHX.
 
2) Your pitiful little "magic mirror" reflects NOTHING of the larger reality around "you'se". All it can possibly show is a spoiled little child with delusions of grandeur.
 
Fluff up your pillow, wrap your security blanket around you and kiss your teddy bear tonight, little "spartan". You can sleep well with just your fantasies of the nic, and your overall innocence and tough-guy fantasies, without ever having actually harmed anyone...I almost envy you.

 

[EastCheats]

EastUS,

I worked in the training dept before your merry band invaded the center in Phoenix and dumbed down the program. The company is data driven. The results have shown some bent metal and scraped tails....East. When something like what happened in Philly, we get "retard" memos thanks to East "aces"

If you are going to challenge the America West Pilot group with your superior airmanship, you had better be prepared to back it up.

I'll go first:

Significant Events Since 1983
for America West
America West had no passenger fatalities between 1983 when it began service and 2005 when it merged with US Airways

http://airsafe.com/events/airlines/amw.htm -- Revised: 22 February 2008

When Useless Airways retires it's certificate, provide me the data that shows you can match the record America West Airlines had upon retirement.

 

[CactusPilot1]

EastUS,
I worked in the training dept before your merry band invaded the center in Phoenix and dumbed down the program. The company is data driven. The results have shown some bent metal and scraped tails....East. When something like what happened in Philly, we get "retard" memos thanks to East "aces"
If you are going to challenge the America West Pilot group with your superior airmanship, you had better be prepared to back it up.
I'll go first:
Significant Events Since 1983
for America West
America West had no passenger fatalities between 1983 when it began service and 2005 when it merged with US Airwayshttp://airsafe.com/events/airlines/amw.htm -- Revised: 22 February 2008
When Useless Airways retires it's certificate, provide me the data that shows you can match the record America West Airlines had upon retirement.

Come on Ace, answer his question. Put up or shut up!

 

[luvthe9]

EastUS,
I worked in the training dept before your merry band invaded the center in Phoenix and dumbed down the program. The company is data driven. The results have shown some bent metal and scraped tails....East. When something like what happened in Philly, we get "retard" memos thanks to East "aces"
If you are going to challenge the America West Pilot group with your superior airmanship, you had better be prepared to back it up.
I'll go first:
Significant Events Since 1983
for America West
America West had no passenger fatalities between 1983 when it began service and 2005 when it merged with US Airwayshttp://airsafe.com/events/airlines/amw.htm -- Revised: 22 February 2008
When Useless Airways retires it's certificate, provide me the data that shows you can match the record America West Airlines had upon retirement.

Will pass this along to the APA as they have the highest casualty count I believe , maybe we can get you back in the training department ace.

 

[EastCheats]

Will pass this along to the APA as they have the highest casualty count I believe , maybe we can get you back in the training department ace.

Let me get this straight, you are going to pass this along (to the APA) while mentioning that AA has the highest casualty count. You really aren't that bright are you? What does that have to do with the safety records of the US vs HP? I did not bring up AA in this conversation. It's your side calling us rookies when you have nothing to back it up. So how about passing it along to that East guy who runs the training dept. On second thought, don't bother because he did not last long in that position.

 

[CactusPilot1]

Will pass this along to the APA as they have the highest casualty count I believe , maybe we can get you back in the training department ace.

Answer the damn question. Which airline is going to retire or has retired their certificate with a better safety record?

1) America West Airlines

Or

2) us airways

Two choices, that should make it easier for you.

 

[Hawkhunter]

Well, I do not think the Westoffs are a bunch of rookies. Maybe a bunch of azzholes but not rookies.

 

[CactusPilot1]

Well, I do not think the Westoffs are a bunch of rookies. Maybe a bunch of azzholes but not rookies.

GFY

 

[snapthis]

"Our former MEC and our union leadership played a very high stakes game of poker by not at Wye River. Freund was right, we were risking everything…..and right now, it looks like we lost. They need to take responsibility for that."



Man up son and take RESPONSIBILITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your leadership screwed you kids over.

 
This has nothing to do with what happened pre-USAPA. Your is trying to screw us to this day. Leonidas will be here long after USAPA LLC starts it's first fundraiser. You are interfering with the APA's right to be the only union on this property. Take responsibility that you have the responsibility to let the APA do it's job.
 

 

[snapthis]

Here's where the money goes..
 
FORM LM-2 LABOR ORGANIZATION ANNUAL REPORT
PERIOD COVERED
 
From 04/01/2013
 
Through 03/31/2014
 
 
AFFILIATION OR ORGANIZATION NAME
 
US AIRLINE PILOTS ASSOCIATION
 
STATEMENT B - RECEIPTS AND DISBURSEMENTS FILE NUMBER: 543-770
 
CASH RECEIPTS SCH AMOUNT
 
Name and Address
 
O'Dwyer & Bernstien, LLP
 
52 Duane Street
 
New York
 
NY
 
10007
 
Type or Classification
Law Firm
 
Total Itemized Transactions with this Payee/Payer $3,133,119
 
Total Non-Itemized Transactions with this Payee/Payer $7,067
 
Total of All Transactions with this Payee/Payer for This Schedule $3,140,186
 
Labor Dispute re: Member 04/07/2013 $39,966
 
Legal Services 04/08/2013 $23,892
 
Merger Legal Services 04/09/2013 $53,545
 
Litigation/Legal Services 04/21/2013 $165,124
 
AZ Declaratory Judgement/Legal Services 04/24/2013 $287,936
 
Grievance Legal Services 04/29/2013 $14,640
 
Merger Legal Services 05/08/2013 $60,238
 
Merger Legal Services 05/30/2013 $32,805
 
AZ-RSP Litigation/ACARS Arbitration/TA-10 06/04/2013 $42,253
 
AZ-RSP Litigation 06/24/2013 $194,103
 
AZ-RSP Litigation/TA-10/Labor Dispute-Member 07/02/2013 $226,980
 
AZ-RSP Litigation/TA-10/ACARS Arbitration/ERISA 08/08/2013 $166,920
 
ACARS Arbitration/TA-10 Litigation/RSP/Grievances 08/13/2013 $29,150
 
RSP Litigation/TA-10 Enforcement 08/13/2013 $5,723
 
AZ Litigation/Legal reviews 08/21/2013 $10,589
 
AZ-RSP Litigation/Merger/Research-Anti Trust 08/30/2013 $173,830
 
TA-10 /Legal Research/Labor Dispute-Member 09/10/2013 $90,671
 
AZ Litigation/Labor Dispute-Member/TA-10 09/18/2013 $51,202
 
Labor Dispute re: Member 10/02/2013 $6,557
 
AZ-RSP Litigation/Member Dispute/Negot/Anti-Trust 10/11/2013 $392,536
 
AZ Litigation/Merger/Anti Trust 10/31/2013 $285,267
 
TA-10/Grievance Legal Services 10/31/2013 $16,660
 
AZ Litigation/TA-10/Anti Trust 11/07/2013 $6,441
 
AZ Litigation/AntiTrust/Arbitration/Member Dispute 12/10/2013 $340,652
 
AZ Litigation/Anti Trust/Member Dispute 01/07/2014 $232,120
 
Labor Dispute re: Member 01/30/2014 $21,352
 
Challenger Arbitration Review 02/27/2014 $19,100
 
AZ Litigation/Member Dispute/Merger 03/05/2014 $142,867
 
 
 
 
 
SCHEDULE 12 - DISBURSEMENTS TO EMPLOYEES
Total Employee Disbursements $3,403,231
 
 
 
36. Dues and Agency Fees $16,445,006
 
37. Per Capita Tax $0
 
38. Fees, Fines, Assessments, Work Permits $0
 
39. Sale of Supplies $0
 
40. Interest $7,084
 
41. Dividends $0
 
42. Rents $0
 
43. Sale of Investments and Fixed Assets 3
 
44. Loans Obtained 9
 
45. Repayments of Loans Made 2 $4,150
 
46. On Behalf of Affiliates for Transmittal to Them $0
 
47. From Members for Disbursement on Their Behalf $0
 
48. Other Receipts 14 $1,567,657
 
49. TOTAL RECEIPTS $18,023,897
 
CASH DISBURSEMENTS SCH AMOUNT
 
50. Representational Activities 15 $9,870,940
 
51. Political Activities and Lobbying 16 $242,972
 
52. Contributions, Gifts, and Grants 17 $32,442
 
53. General Overhead 18 $834,973
 
54. Union Administration 19 $943,220
 
55. Benefits 20 $1,432,181
 
56. Per Capita Tax $0
 
57. Strike Benefits $0
 
58. Fees, Fines, Assessments, etc. $0
 
59. Supplies for Resale $0
 
60. Purchase of Investments and Fixed Assets 4 $44,855
 
61. Loans Made 2 $0
 
62. Repayment of Loans Obtained 9
 
63. To Affiliates of Funds Collected on Their Behalf $0
 
64. On Behalf of Individual Members $0
 
65. Direct Taxes $27,424
 
66. Subtotal $13,429,007
 
67. Withholding Taxes and Payroll Deductions
 
67a. Total Withheld $72,027
 
67b. Less Total Disbursed $72,027
 
67c. Total Withheld But Not Disbursed
 
68. TOTAL DISBURSEMENTS $13,429,007