Barrister said:
Snap,
Your problem dude is that you don't know your audience/enemy. We gave blood over here only to see suit after suit squander it. Not your problem right? But we kept this POS floating long enough to get a deal, any deal, it just happened to be your POS we did it with. At least half of this company was set back YEARS,....no decades ... due to the US/PI merger but you know what...we got over it because we knew at it's very core DOH is fair. When the US/PI deal went through Greensboro was closed as a crew base. The son of the PI founder was the chief pilot. He found out the base was closing when the bid came over the teletype. Where did they add the time...how about LAX....funny right!!! Want to know how many PI guys got displaced?? Want to know what backward movement is?? Go ask any PI guy, he will tell ya!! Just about every single PI gut who commuted to CLT from anyplace South eventually got displaced by US guys who then commuted to CLT. Did we blame the pilots....HELL NO ..we blamed a management group who made one stupid move after another. Oh yeah...lets don't forget that US had to park 30-40 737s just to get this AW deal done. Did you forget about that?
To an East guy your complaints just elicit a yea...been there done that type of response. Just remember this. NIC both blessed you and doomed you at the same time. If you can't see that....well then son you have a little growing up to do.
None of us a truly want to see you in that spot because most of us have.....well ...been there. But you will not get our sympathy because you will have 10-15-20 year FOs. It sucks to be you. We know because it has sucked to be US...but for way longer!!
NICDOA
NPJB
Barrister,
I maintain friendships with some out East formed well before the shotgun wedding in 2005, I'm aware of the hardships prior to that time. I attended the roadshows, the trials and most recently, the Phoenix domicile meeting. I get it. I'll give credit to Hummel, Streble and Dean 10h Collelo for coming out and speaking to West pilots. There was no need for armed guards as they saw. Another thought, I don't stand at the curb, scowl at East pilots, I'd rather strike up a conversation, something outside of what goes on here on this forum. This is the place to vent, grab that folding chair, knock each other over the head, not on the line or the jumpseat.
You had the power in the past to strong-arm the West, Wye River comes to mind. I'm also aware that the abuse of power which came with the majority rule is drawing to a close. You may find yourself having a similar event, Trinity River, come to Jesus moment and baptism through the APA. This is what USAPA fears as noted below in the opposition to SCS: "
The US Airline Pilots Association (USAPA) was alone in filing a brief opposing the classification."
The August 8 decision by the NMB paves the way for a single collective bargaining representative for the pilots of both US Airways and American Airlines. That representative is likely to be the APA.
In a 23-page
decision, the National Mediation Board (NMB) agreed with the Allied Pilots Association (APA) that American Airlines and US Airways are operating as a single transportation system. The APA represents American Airlines’ 10,000 pilots. Both the APA and American Airlines filed briefs with the NMB earlier this year in support of the single-carrier classification.
The US Airline Pilots Association (USAPA) was alone in filing a brief opposing the classification. The USAPA represents 5,200 US Airways pilots.
The NMB report cited the merged American Airlines’ common management, financial integration, centralized control of labor relations, common personnel policies, combined routes and schedules, and standardized employee uniforms as the basis for reaching the conclusion that the merged airlines are operating as a single carrier. The NMB acknowledged the USAPA’s contention that the two carriers were not fully integrated. “USAPA argues that the New American has not removed any public indicia of US Airways, that separate livery still exists, that separate websites continues, and that separate crew management computer systems in use and that many important terms and conditions of pilot employment remain separate with no established date for integration,” a segment of the report read. The NMB concluded that the aforementioned obstacles were not enough to prevent approval of the APA petition.
In a
statement issued Friday, the APA explained what the NMB’s decision means to its workforce. “In accordance with the NMB’s standard procedures, APA ‘and any Intervenor have 30 days from [August 8] to file an application supported by a showing of interest of at least 50% of the single transportation system.’ APA has previously submitted evidence to the NMB that we represent approximately two-thirds of the combined pilot group.”
Because the APA has a strong numbers advantage, the NMB’s decision all but assures that the APA, rather than the USAPA, will represent the pilots at a merged American Airlines.
Last Wednesday, unions representing mechanics for American Airlines also
filed to declare the merged airline a single transportation system. Unlike the pilots’ unions, both the Transportation Workers Union, representing American Airlines employees, and the International Association of Machinists, representing US Airways mechanics, supported the petition. The two unions previously agreed to jointly represent employees from both airlines under one collective bargaining agreement.
http://www.flyertalk.com/story/national-mediation-board-approves-american-airlines-and-us-airways-as-single-carrier.html
Bottom line, it is noted, "it sucks to be US"
I'm looking forward to a fresh start with the APA.
Maybe the will suck less.
