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snapthis said:
 

I think I can agree with that. 😉
 
 
Its really not so much a matter of agreement, as it is a matter of compliance.  
 
snapthis said:
Would that compliance be binding or non-binding?
 
Ask F & K to put that question to the court during their appeal.    For $675 you should have such easy question already answered.  😀
 
snapthis said:
She looks impressed :lol:
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Sorry, no rumors just facts, enjoy the summer on the "island" fact APA boys are moving up nicely as are the east pilots, you'll love the next bid!
 
snapthis said:
 
AOL 6/18 update
 

Jeff Freund, our former AWA Merger Committee attorney, was instrumental in the Nicolau proceedings. Mr. Freund recently rejoined the West efforts to obtain a fair integration at the New American Airlines. Over the last eight years Mr. Freund negotiated, or helped obtain largely favorable terms for his clients in every major airline merger.
 
 
 


 
 
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BEFORE THE AIR LINE PILOTS ASSOCIATION

          2                    ARBITRATION BOARD

          3   

          4   - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -x

          5   In the Matter of the Seniority             :

          6   Integration Between:                       :

          7   THE CREW MEMBERS OF POLAR AIR CARGO, INC., :

          8       and                                    :

          9   THE CREW MEMBERS OF ATLAS AIR, INC.        :

         10   - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -x
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JEFFREY R. FREUND, ESQ.

          4            LISA POWELL, ESQ.

          5            Bredhoff & Kaiser, PLLC

        
         10            On behalf of Atlas Air, Inc.
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Mr. Freund?

         15             MR. FREUND:  Thank you.
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Our methodology is plain and simple, and

          2   that is -- and we've spelled it out in our opening

          3   papers.  You ought to take the pilots who are .....
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at Polar using Atlas

          9   staffing formulas, take the most senior of those

         10   pilots, put them on the Atlas list on his or her

         11   date of hire, determine what that -- the ratio that

         12   exists by reason of looking at that number of pilots

         13   necessary to fly the Polar aircraft, create a ratio

         14   between that number and the number of Atlas pilots,

         15   and ratio those pilots into the list using the

         16   methodology adopted by Rich Block in the Alaska/Jet

         17   America integration, namely, if that ratio results

         18   in putting any Polar pilot ahead of an Atlas pilot

         19   who has an earlier date of hire, move the Polar

         20   pilot down and begin the ratio again.
 
luvthe9 said:
Sorry, no rumors just facts, enjoy the summer on the "island" fact APA boys are moving up nicely as are the east pilots, you'll love the next bid!
Looks like the projected integration timeline has been released.
 
2017.
 
 
Grievance Update - MTA Disputes #2, #3, and #5

Details Created on Wednesday, 18 June 2014 15:08
Yesterday (June 17) the parties (USAPA, the Company and APA) met with Arbitrator Richard Bloch on pending MTA Disputes #2, #3 and #5. The parties agreed to settle MTA Dispute #2 which concerns information requested by the USAPA Merger Committee. MTA Dispute #3, which concerns the Company’s assignment of chief pilots from American to oversee operations at US Airways, was postponed at the request of USAPA because Professional Negotiator Roland Wilder was unable to be present. And the Company and APA agreed, as USAPA has consistently asserted, that MTA Dispute #5, which was filed by the Company and APA, cannot be scheduled for hearing until the District Court has ruled on the motions to compel arbitration by the Company and APA which are currently pending in the McCaskill Bond Injunction Action.

MTA Dispute #2

MTA Dispute #2, filed by USAPA and the USAPA Merger Committee, alleged (a) that the Company was improperly meeting with and otherwise involving a “West Merger Committee” appointed by the plaintiffs in the Addington II case in Seniority List Integration (SLI) discussions involving American and US Airways Pilots and (b) that the Company was failing and refusing to provide information necessary for the USAPA Merger Committee to effectively participate in the SLI process.

USAPA agreed not to proceed with the first issue based on the Company’s commitment that the status of any so-called “West Committee” was determined by the decision issued in January 2014 in Addington II and that the Company therefore would refrain from involving such a committee in the SLI process.

The parties agreed to resolve the second issue concerning information when the Company indicated it was still in the process of producing information in response to the requests of both the USAPA Merger Committee and the APA Seniority Integration Committee (SIC) and because the parties agreed to a process to resolve disputes concerning the production of SLI information on an expedited basis before Arbitrator Bloch.

MTA Dispute #3

MTA Dispute #3, filed by USAPA, alleged that the Carrier violated the MOU by assigning pilots from American as Chief Pilots to oversee US Airways pilots. The dates for hearing before Arbitrator Bloch had been reserved by the Company and APA without the agreement of USAPA and USAPA asked that any hearing on MTA Dispute #3 be postponed because Professional Negotiator Roland Wilder could not be present due to other previous commitments. Arbitrator Bloch granted USAPA’s request over the objections of the Company and APA. As a result, there is currently no date set for a hearing on MTA Dispute #3.

MTA Dispute #5

MTA Dispute #5, filed by the Company and APA, alleges that USAPA is violating the MOU by generally asserting in the McCaskill-Bond Injunction Action that the parties (the Carriers, APA and USAPA) must follow the process set forth by the McCaskill-Bond Amendment. USAPA has refused to participate in arbitrating this dispute because in its view this is a statutory issue that must be decided by the United States District Court in the McCaskill-Bond Injunction Action and not by an arbitrator. The Company and APA have filed motions in the McCaskill Bond Injunction Action asking the District Court to compel (require) USAPA to arbitrate MTA Dispute #5 and those motions are pending before the District Court. The Company and APA have previously written to Arbitrator Bloch and to USAPA demanding that USAPA proceed to arbitration on MTA Dispute #5 even though the issue is pending before the District Court. USAPA has refused. At the hearing yesterday, the Company and APA conceded that MTA Dispute #5 cannot be arbitrated unless and until the District Court issues a decision on the pending motions. As a result, all of the additional dates that had been reserved by the Company and APA (June 18-19 and July 1-3) were released, and a hearing on MTA Dispute #5 will be scheduled only if the District Court rules that USAPA must arbitrate the dispute.

USAPA Grievance Committee
 
end_of_alpa said:
Grievance Update - MTA Disputes #2, #3, and #5
Details Created on Wednesday, 18 June 2014 15:08
Yesterday (June 17) the parties (USAPA, the Company and APA) met with Arbitrator Richard Bloch on pending MTA Disputes #2, #3 and #5. The parties agreed to settle MTA Dispute #2 which concerns information requested by the USAPA Merger Committee. MTA Dispute #3, which concerns the Company’s assignment of chief pilots from American to oversee operations at US Airways, was postponed at the request of USAPA because Professional Negotiator Roland Wilder was unable to be present. And the Company and APA agreed, as USAPA has consistently asserted, that MTA Dispute #5, which was filed by the Company and APA, cannot be scheduled for hearing until the District Court has ruled on the motions to compel arbitration by the Company and APA which are currently pending in the McCaskill Bond Injunction Action.
MTA Dispute #2
MTA Dispute #2, filed by USAPA and the USAPA Merger Committee, alleged (a) that the Company was improperly meeting with and otherwise involving a “West Merger Committee” appointed by the plaintiffs in the Addington II case in Seniority List Integration (SLI) discussions involving American and US Airways Pilots and (b) that the Company was failing and refusing to provide information necessary for the USAPA Merger Committee to effectively participate in the SLI process.
USAPA agreed not to proceed with the first issue based on the Company’s commitment that the status of any so-called “West Committee” was determined by the decision issued in January 2014 in Addington II and that the Company therefore would refrain from involving such a committee in the SLI process.
The parties agreed to resolve the second issue concerning information when the Company indicated it was still in the process of producing information in response to the requests of both the USAPA Merger Committee and the APA Seniority Integration Committee (SIC) and because the parties agreed to a process to resolve disputes concerning the production of SLI information on an expedited basis before Arbitrator Bloch.
MTA Dispute #3
MTA Dispute #3, filed by USAPA, alleged that the Carrier violated the MOU by assigning pilots from American as Chief Pilots to oversee US Airways pilots. The dates for hearing before Arbitrator Bloch had been reserved by the Company and APA without the agreement of USAPA and USAPA asked that any hearing on MTA Dispute #3 be postponed because Professional Negotiator Roland Wilder could not be present due to other previous commitments. Arbitrator Bloch granted USAPA’s request over the objections of the Company and APA. As a result, there is currently no date set for a hearing on MTA Dispute #3.
MTA Dispute #5
MTA Dispute #5, filed by the Company and APA, alleges that USAPA is violating the MOU by generally asserting in the McCaskill-Bond Injunction Action that the parties (the Carriers, APA and USAPA) must follow the process set forth by the McCaskill-Bond Amendment. USAPA has refused to participate in arbitrating this dispute because in its view this is a statutory issue that must be decided by the United States District Court in the McCaskill-Bond Injunction Action and not by an arbitrator. The Company and APA have filed motions in the McCaskill Bond Injunction Action asking the District Court to compel (require) USAPA to arbitrate MTA Dispute #5 and those motions are pending before the District Court. The Company and APA have previously written to Arbitrator Bloch and to USAPA demanding that USAPA proceed to arbitration on MTA Dispute #5 even though the issue is pending before the District Court. USAPA has refused. At the hearing yesterday, the Company and APA conceded that MTA Dispute #5 cannot be arbitrated unless and until the District Court issues a decision on the pending motions. As a result, all of the additional dates that had been reserved by the Company and APA (June 18-19 and July 1-3) were released, and a hearing on MTA Dispute #5 will be scheduled only if the District Court rules that USAPA must arbitrate the dispute.
USAPA Grievance Committee
Note the company response to #2:

"USAPA agreed not to proceed with the first issue based on the Company’s commitment that the status of any so-called “West Committee”

"was determined by the decision issued in January 2014 in Addington II and that the Company therefore would refrain from involving such a committee in the SLI process."

Better believe that "agreement" will be entered in the present lawsuit in DC as evidence.
 
snapthis said:
AOL 6/18 update

As we wait for the NMB to rule on “Single Carrier Status” (SCS) Leonidas, LLC will provide its viewpoint on the legal landscape as we continue to defend against the multiple and unrelenting assaults on our careers and seniority. A finding of SCS will quickly eliminate USAPA’s role as our collective bargaining agent (CBA), and thereafter it will be legally barred from representing anyone. The Allied Pilots Association (APA) will become the CBA for all American Airlines pilots, just as USAPA became the CBA for all US Airways pilots when it was certified by the NMB. Although our legal activity has slowed recently, our fight is far from over. It was clear that shift in strategy was required in order to meet the recent developments in our quest for justice.
Over the past six years, a certain segment of former US Airways pilots have used USAPA as a weapon, engaging in a relentless campaign to denigrate and intimidate the former America West pilots in order to justify their quest to jettison their obligations from 2005. USAPA’s singular goal has been to substitute their own contrived seniority list in place of an agreed upon arbitrated decision arrived at after an arbitrators careful consideration of all the facts and equities of our unique merger situation. West pilot unity has provided a robust defense against an immoral union supported by management.
While we didn't pick this fight, defending ourselves has been worth the effort. Had we not stood up to USAPA the West pilots would have been stapled long ago and there would be no need for APA and the company to consider West pilot interest in a fair SLI process. USAPA’s desperate efforts litigating in Washington DC, and opposing SCS are aimed at keeping the West pilots out of the process at all costs because our presence will prevent USAPA from unilaterally dictating what US Airways seniority list will become part of the integrated seniority list.
As the new minority, USAPA has chosen to turn its tactics against APA and New American with multiple legal actions on multiple fronts designed to prolong its reign and exclude the past and future seniority interests of former America West pilots. USAPA's primary disagreement with APA over the protocol revolves around the inclusion of the former AWA pilots as a separate party to the seniority integration. USAPA also disagrees that APA will have absolute control over the process and the ability to amend the agreements as APA and the company see fit. This was USAPA's very own strategy when it assumed the role as the collective bargaining agent from ALPA. Today, the “shoe is on the other foot” and USAPA leaders do not like the idea that APA may do unto them as USAPA has done unto the West Pilots.
Left to their own devices, USAPA's officers will continue to interfere with the APA, the company, and the fair representation rights for the former America West pilots. A frequently heard question is, “what will happen to USAPA’s treasury fund?” We know West pilots agree with our opinion that it must be promptly returned to the pilots that were forced to pay it. It is almost certain that, without ANOTHER lawsuit, USAPA and its officers will attempt to use West dues money to advance East interests. However, USAPA and its officers will not be afforded any protection under federal labor law. It will be up to the former America West Pilots to ensure this does not happen. For the first time, the USAPA officers will be exposed to personal liability for their actions. Should USAPA continue representing any US Airways pilot after decertification, they will individually and jointly be in contempt of Judge Silver’s order because she clearly ruled (at USAPA's urging) that USAPA could no longer represent any pilots after decertification. True to form, USAPA has already filed a lawsuit in Washington to get the D.C. court to render an opinion opposing the one they convinced Judge Silver to deliver in Arizona. Never assume that USAPA will be consistent or make ethical choices.
Our funding strategy is ever-evolving to meet future challenges. The America West pilots have done an outstanding job voluntarily contributing to pay our past legal obligations, but the fight will continue as long as USAPA’s officers are able to interfere OR the APA decides to withdraw support for a separate West merger committee. Possible legal actions going forward to defend the former America West seniority rights are expected to include the Ninth Circuit appeal, possible contempt charges against USAPA’s officers, and recovering dues money from USAPA. Additionally and more importantly is the funding for a West merger committee. The APA has tepidly committed to nothing more than a few vague references found in the DC litigation documents such as, “[After APA is certified as the single bargaining representative]...'it would assume responsibility for the structure of the pre-merger groups' merger committees consistent with its legal obligations, including the discretion to provide for the separate participation of the West Pilots in the seniority integration process if APA so chooses.'” In order to ensure a fair process, there must be a level playing field, but even this has not been guaranteed and we must be prepared to fund expenses and litigation in real time as the need arises, potentially awaiting repayment of these expenditures in the future.
To make the point clear, the APA and the company believe that three parties are required to have a fair and equitable M/B process under the terms of the merger. The parties are defined as the legacy AA pilots, and the East and West US Airways pilots. For this process to be fair, the West Merger committee must be afforded conditions of participation equal with the other parties. This includes FPL, time off, positive space travel when needed, legal representation, and funding. While we expect some level of funding from the APA for a West merger committee, history indicates more will be required. At the beginning of the 2005 merger, West Pilots were fortunate to have a separate West Merger Fund, which exceeded 1.5 million dollars, to supplement ALPA funds. We can expect this merger will cost substantially more due to its size, complexity, and a decade of inflation. At least in the beginning of this process, we should be prepared to fund our own committee one hundred percent.
Jeff Freund, our former AWA Merger Committee attorney, was instrumental in the Nicolau proceedings. Mr. Freund recently rejoined the West efforts to obtain a fair integration at the New American Airlines. Over the last eight years Mr. Freund negotiated, or helped obtain largely favorable terms for his clients in every major airline merger. Mr. Freund will provide the best representation in our upcoming SLI and is now on retainer to represent the West merger committee. This was possible through the well-established record of West pilots have of supporting Leonidas financially over the years.
Losers.
 
end_of_alpa said:
 
 
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To generate the necessary funding for whatever challenges lay ahead, including the possible funding of a West Merger Committee, we are modifying the program by which you can obtain a Leonidas Liberty Tie. While you can still receive a Liberty tie for a one-time donation of $675.00, the ties are now also available for $700.00 on payments through the “Push for Justice” campaign. First Officers may contribute $50.00 per month, and Captains may contribute $100.00 per month. We encourage every West pilot to contribute on a continual basis for as long as it takes to finish this fight! 

Go to cactuspilot.com, click on “Contribute to the Legal Effort/The Push for Justice” tab, click on The Push for Justice and contribute through PayPal as a First Officer or as a Captain. 

After you have signed up, or if you are currently participating in the “Push For Justice” campaign or bill pay, please send an email to  ties@cactuspilots.us and include the size of tie you prefer (REG or TALL) and your current mailing address (please no PO Boxes). 

Sincerely, 

Leonidas, LLC 
 
Funny End of Alpa, there is no legal postings as of late(USAPA CREDIT) by the other parties suggesting they might be contradicting their various positions in 2 different courts as they claimed USAPA was doing, I notice HAIR PLANT GUY, and the rest of the leadusunhireables aka AOL putting out some BS letter for donations, how funny considering the current situation. Funny if the gate situation that was just publicized in PHX  actually happened, is not that a hostile workplace? Many of us will just pass it off as rumor just like feces in the mail to USAPA and tying up the safety hotline . OBTW, the USAPA filings  MB to a theatre near you, PS and only the party's that actually signed the MOU! NIGHT , NIGHT!
 
Interesting from the APA:
 
https://public.alliedpilots.org/apa/AboutAPA/APAPublicNews/tabid/843/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/4586/Seniority-Integration-Protocol.aspx
 
SENIORITY INTEGRATION PROTOCOL: APA proposed a seniority integration protocol agreement today to the US Airline Pilots Association that incorporates USAPA's suggestions and addresses concerns their leadership has expressed. As you will see, the four-party protocol will include American Airlines and US Airways management as signatories. We'll update you once USAPA has responded to our proposal.
 
SENIORITY INTEGRATION PROTOCOL: APA proposed a seniority integration protocol agreement today to the US Airline Pilots Association that incorporates USAPA's suggestions and addresses concerns their leadership has expressed. As you will see, the four-party protocol will include American Airlines and US Airways management as signatories. We'll update you once USAPA has responded to our proposal
 
 
Protocol Agreement, APA Proposal 6/18/14 
SENIORITY INTEGRATION PROTOCOL AGREEMENT 
This Agreement is made and entered into by and between the Allied Pilots Association (APA), US Airline Pilots Association (USAPA), American Airlines, Inc. (American), and US Airways, Inc. (US Airways) (American and US Airways collectively, the New American), pursuant to the direction and provisions of paragraph 10.f. of the Memorandum of Understanding Regarding 
Contingent Collective Bargaining Agreement by and between US Airways, 
American Airlines, APA and USAPA (the MOU). 

WHEREAS the MOU was entered into on or about January 15th, 2013, among APA, USAPA, American, and US Airways, and 

WHEREAS, consistent with Section 13( of the Allegheny/Mohawk LPPs, in Section 10.a. of the MOU, APA, USAPA, American and US Airways agreed that [a] seniority integration process consistent with McCaskill-Bond shall begin as soon as possible after the Effective Date, 
WHEREAS, consistent with Section 13( of the Allegheny/Mohawk LPPs, Section 10.f. of the MOU provides that [a] Seniority Integration Protocol Agreement ... consistent with McCaskill Bond and this Paragraph 10 would set forth the process and protocol for conducting negotiations and arbitration in the agreed seniority integration process, and 

WHEREAS, the merger transaction contemplated by the AMR Plan of Reorganization closed on December 9, 2013, and 

WHEREAS, it is desirable to maintain cooperative relationships throughout the seniority integration process outlined in paragraph 10 of the MOU, and 

WHEREAS, the APA has established a Merger Committee to represent the American pilots during the seniority integration process and USAPA has established a Merger Committee to represent the US Airways pilots during the 
seniority integration process. 

WHEREAS, it is desirable to set out with specificity the process for integrating the existing seniority lists and including the integrated seniority listand all appropriate ancillary provisions, including implementation procedures, into the Joint Collective Bargaining Agreement (JCBA) defined in the MOU, and 

WHEREAS, in implementation of the agreements made in the MOU, the following protocols are established. 

1. APA, USAPA, and New American acknowledge that this Protocol Agreement constitutes the Protocol Agreement referred to in paragraph 10.f. of the MOU. 
 
2. a. So long as APA and USAPA are separately certified by the National Mediation Board (the NMB) to represent the separate pilot crafts  and classes at American and US Airways, respectively, APA and USAPA will each be responsible for the manner in which the Merger Committee it has  established is appointed, operated and financed, and the manner in which any negotiated seniority integration agreement is approved and/or ratified, consistent with the MOU, this Protocol Agreement, the respective organizationsduty of fair representation, and other legal obligations. 
b. Subject to Paragraph 3 below, effective on and after the date that the NMB determines the representation of the combined pilot craft and class at New American , the Organization, if any, designated by the NMB as the duly designated representative of the combined craft and class (the Organization) shall continue in existence the Merger Committees established by APA and USAPA, and delegate to the Merger Committees authority to act for and on behalf of the pilots on their respective pre-merger seniority lists for purposes of concluding an integrated pilot seniority list, consistent with the MOU, this Protocol Agreement, the duty of fair representation, and the Organizations other legal obligations. Thereafter, each Merger Committee shall fill its own vacancies by selection made by the 
remaining members of that Merger Committee. Each Merger Committee shall be responsible for determining its position with respect to all matters encompassed by this Seniority Integration Protocol, selecting its legal counsel other advisors, and determining the manner in which its legal and other expenses are financed. The Organization shall not interfere in the deliberations and decision making of the Merger Committees. The Organization shall not  interfere with any Merger Committee with respect to filling any vacancy, choosing 
legal counsel or other advisors and experts, or the manner in which legal and other expenses are financed. Any dispute regarding the interpretation and application of this paragraph 2.b. shall be subject to priority expedited resolution under paragraph 20 of the MOU. 

3. Within __ days following the execution of this Seniority Integration Protocol Agreement, a committee claiming to represent the interests of all pilots on a separate pre-merger seniority list referenced in paragraph 4( below, may invoke the dispute resolution procedures of paragraph 20 of the MOU to apply to receive party status as a Merger Committee on behalf of the pilots on such separate pre-merger seniority list under the provisions of this Protocol Agreement. New American, any certified bargaining representative, and the existing Merger  Committees shall have the right to respond to any such application. The Arbitrator designated under paragraph 20 of the MOU shall have the authority to rule on any such application, with the ruling being final and binding on New American, APA, USAPA, the Merger Committees, and the pilots of American and US Airways. Any Merger Committee authorized by the arbitrator pursuant to this paragraph 3 shall thereafter be treated as a Merger Committee under this Seniority Integration 
Protocol Agreement for all purposes. 
 
4. On or before ______, 2014, or within __ days of the arbitrators ruling under paragraph 3 above, or within ___ days of the receipt from New American of the information described in a. below, whichever is later, the Merger Committees shall compile, verify, certify and exchange (in electronic Excel format whenever possible) employment data for each pilot on their respective pre-merger seniority lists, as follows. 
a. The information certified and exchanged will include the following information to the extent such information is 
available and can be compiled/provided by New American without undue burden or expense: 
(1) 
Each pilot's name; employee number; seniority number; date of hire; occupational seniority date, if any, and any other date relevant to the pilots placement on the pre-merger seniority list; date of birth; seat, aircraft, domicile, and information reflecting  each pilot's availability to engage in revenue flying (i.e., leave status, instructor status, management pilot status, medical/disability status); 
(2) 
For each pilot, the start and end date of any furlough, period of disability, or leave of absence, or any intervening period of service with the pre-merger carrier other than as a flight deck crew member; an explanation for the furlough, period of disability, leave of absence, or 

Protocol Agreement, APA Proposal 6/18/14 period of service other than as a flight deck crew member; and an explanation of the effect, if any, of the furlough, period of disability, leave of absence, or period of service other than as a flight deck crew member on the 
pilots seniority, longevity, compensation and/or benefits; 
(3) 
The identification, with an appropriate designator on the seniority list, of any pilot whose placement on the pre-merger list was determined by a prior seniority integration agreement or award. 
(4) 
Provide each pilot's dates of employment at predecessor airlines, subject to previous seniority integrations (e.g., TWA, Reno, Air Cal, TCA, America West, Piedmont, US Airways Shuttle, PSA, Empire). 
(5) 
The identification, with an appropriate designator on the seniority list, of any pilots with grandfather, preferential 
or similar special rights by agreement or prior seniority integration award that are limited as to category, domicile or status within the flight deck crew, and an explanation for each such special rights.
(6) 
The identification, with an appropriate designator on the seniority list, of any pilots who appear on multiple pre-
merger seniority lists (American, US Airways (East), US Airways (West)). 
(7) 
Similar information for any pilot who has been terminated or otherwise removed from the pre-merger seniority list, whose status is the subject of any pending litigation or dispute. 
b. 
The certified seniority lists will reflect the status quo of the three seniority lists in effect at the carriers on December 9, 2013 
(i.e., American, US Airways (East), US Airways (West); provided, that this will be without prejudice to any Merger Committees position on the appropriate snapshot or constructive notice date. 
5. The Merger Committees will exchange additional relevant data (in electronic Excel format whenever possible) upon written request in the course of the seniority integration process. 
6. New American will provide information relevant to the seniority integration (in electronic Excel format whenever possible) on the written request of any Merger Committee, provided that the information is relevant to the issues, and the requests are reasonable and do not impose undue burden or expense, and so long as the Merger Committees agree to appropriate confidentiality terms. Such 
information shall be provided by New American to the Merger Committees on an equal basis. Within __ days of an arbitrators ruling authorizing an additional Merger Committee under paragraph 3 above, New American will provide to such Merger Committee all information theretofore provided to the Merger Committees established by APA and USAPA. 
7. a. Within __ days following the exchange of employment data under paragraph 4 above, the Merger Committees (and New American, to the extent consistent with paragraph 10.d of the MOU) shall commence negotiations concerning integration of the seniority lists as set forth below. Such negotiations will occur for 45 days. Neither the MOU nor this Protocol Agreement shall prohibit such negotiations beyond that date by mutual agreement of the MergerCommittees (and American, to the extent consistent with paragraph 10.d. of the MOU). 
b. Any such negotiations shall be directed to the establishment of a fair and equitable integrated seniority list as required by the McCaskill Bond Act; provided, that any such integrated seniority list shall comply with the conditions set forth in paragraph 10.b. of the MOU. The subjects of the negotiations will include: 
(1) to attempt to resolve any and all disputes and inconsistencies with regard to the employment data exchanged pursuant to paragraph 3 above, and to reduce to writing any remaining areas of disagreement, with a statement of each negotiating partys position; 
(2) to determine the snapshot date as of which the pre-merger seniority lists will be integrated, and the constructive notice date after which pilots hired shall be deemed to have been on constructive notice of the merger; 
(3) the pre-merger fleets for which each pre-merger group will be entitled to credit and the projected future combined fleet including, without limitation, aircraft on hand, on order, and/or on option as agreed by the negotiators; 
(4) the staffing assumptions to be applied to the fleets established pursuant to subparagraph b.(3) above; 
(5) the pilot bidding patterns (stovepipe or otherwise) to be assumed in applying the fleet and staffing assumptions established pursuant to subparagraphs b.(3) and (4) above; and 
(6) the methodology or methodologies to be applied to integrate the pre-merger seniority lists including, without limitation, construction of the integrated seniority list and applicable conditions and restrictions; provided, that any such negotiations shall be directed to the establishment of a fair and equitable integrated seniority as required by the McCaskill Bond Act, and consistent with the conditions 
set forth in paragraph 10.b. of the MOU.
c. The Merger Committees (and New American, as applicable) may jointly agree to the assistance of a neutral mediator at any point during the negotiations. The fees and expenses of any such mediator shall be paid by New American. 
d. The Merger Committees (and New American, as applicable) may enter into written agreements and/or stipulations to resolve 
and/or limit the issues to be submitted to the Arbitration Board for resolution. 
e. No position taken and nothing said by any participant during negotiations may be presented nor shall be admissible in the seniority integration arbitration. 
8. On or before _____, 2014, or within __ days following an arbitrators ruling under paragraph 3 above, whichever is later, the Merger Committees shall select three neutral arbitrators to serve as an Arbitration Board in accordance with the MOU and this Protocol Agreement. The Arbitration Board shall be selected by the Merger Committees exchanging lists of 5 arbitrators. Any names common to 
the Merger Committees lists will be appointed to the Arbitration Board; if there are more than three common names, the Merger Committees shall rank order the common names, and the three arbitrators shall be designated based on the Committees relative combined ranking. To the extent that positions on the Arbitration Board remain unfilled and the Merger Committees are unable to agree 
on the remaining arbitrators, the remaining arbitrators shall be selected by alternate strike from the arbitrators proposed by the Merger Committees. The Merger Committees shall determine by agreement or by lot the order of striking.


9. The Arbitration Board shall have the authority to resolve any dispute regarding the employment data exchanged by the Merger Committees pursuant to paragraph 4 above, or regarding the production of information under the MOU or this Protocol Agreement; provided that such dispute has not already been adjudicated pursuant to [settlement or MTA #2]. Any such dispute shall be submitted to the Arbitration Board no later than __________; and the Arbitration Board shall issue its ruling(s) with respect to any such dispute no later than ____________. 
10. a. The Arbitration Board shall have the authority to establish a fair and equitable integrated seniority list as required by the McCaskill Bond Act;  provided, that any such integrated seniority list shall comply with the conditions set forth in paragraph 10.b. of the MOU.

b. The parties to the arbitration will be the Merger Committees and New American; provided, that the participation of New American shall be limited to ensuring that the Arbitration Boards Award complies with the conditions set forth in paragraph 10.b. of the MOU. In accordance with paragraph 10.a. of the MOU, the arbitration proceeding will commence no later than 60 days after the designation of the Arbitration Board, or as soon thereafter as practicable given the availability of the designated arbitrators; provided, that in no event shall the proceeding commence prior to the final approval of the Joint Collective Bargaining Agreement pursuant to the deadlines and procedures in paragraph 27 of the MOU. 
c. The arbitration hearing will be limited to 12 hearing days; provided, that with the concurrence of the Merger Committees and New American, or at the request of the Arbitration Board, the hearing may be extended up to an additional 4 days. In advance of the hearing,the Arbitration Board shall convene an in-person or telephonic pre-hearing conference or conferences with the parties, to establish rules of procedure, receive stipulations, establish the location(s) of the hearing, set time limits, define issues, establish a schedule for the submission of pre-hearing statements of position, set the order of proof on issues, and deal with other pre-hearing and procedural matters.
d. At the conclusion of the arbitration hearing, the Arbitration Board will establish a schedule for the submission of post-hearing briefs, and/or oral argument before the Arbitration Board. 
e. Prior to issuing a final Award, the Arbitration Board will submit a proposed Award to the Merger Committees and New American for 
the purpose of reviewing the Arbitration Boards determinations, and the Arbitration Board shall receive written comments  and suggestions as to the proposed Award, with copies to the Merger Committees and New American.The Merger Committees and New American may submit written response to the comments and suggestions of the other parties, with copies to the Merger Committees and New American. 
f. The Arbitration Board shall issue its final Award within six (6) months of the commencement of the arbitration hearing, and in any event not later than December 9, 2015. 
g. The Arbitration Board will include in its Award a provision retaining jurisdiction until all of the provisions of the Award have been satisfied for the limited purpose of resolving disputes which may arise regarding the interpretation, application or implementation of the Award; and shall establish, as part of the Award, a process for resolution of such disputes as adopted by the parties or, in the absence of such agreement, established by the Arbitration Board. 
11. In accordance with paragraph 10.c. of the MOU, the integrated seniority list resulting from the process established by the MOU and this Protocol Agreement, whether arrived at through agreement or arbitration, shall be final and binding on APA and USAPA (and/or the certified bargaining representative of thecombined pilot craft and class), American and US Airways or their successors, and 
all of the pilots of American and US Airways. 
12. The integrated seniority list resulting from the process established by the MOU and this Protocol Agreement shall be implemented as established in the Joint Collective Bargaining Agreement. 
13. So long as it has jurisdiction over any matter encompassed by paragraph 9 or 10 above, the Arbitration Board shall have authority to resolve any dispute arising out of the interpretation or application of this Seniority Integration Protocol Agreement. The Arbitration Boards resolution of any such issue shall be final and binding. 
14. In accordance with paragraph 7 of the MOU, New American will make positive space transportation available to members of the Merger Committees when engaged in activities related to seniority list integration. 
15. Pursuant to paragraph 7 of the MOU, New American shall provide reimbursement of expenses in an amount not to exceed $2 million for each Merger Committee. 
16. Further elements of the seniority integration protocol may be established by written agreement of the parties (American, US Airways, USAPA and APA until NMB certification of a single bargaining representative; American, US Airways, and the Organization following NMB certification of a single bargaining representative); provided, that no modification shall be made in the provisions of paragraphs 2 and 3 above.
17. No position taken by the parties in the Seniority Integration Process may be submitted to the National Mediation Board in the proceeding ongoing in NMB File No. CR-7110. 
18. This Seniority Integration Protocol Agreement is expressly conditioned upon (a) USAPAs withdrawal of any objection before the National Mediation Board to a finding that American and US Airways constitute a single transportation system under the Railway Labor Act; (the withdrawal, with prejudice, of USAPAs request for a panel of arbitrators from the National Mediation Board, and any USAPA grievance related thereto; and © the voluntary dismissal, with prejudice, of the action captioned USAPA v. US Airways, Inc., 14 
Civ. 00328 (DAH) (D.D.C.), with each party to bear its own costs with respect to said litigation; and will not be effective until such dismissal is effected. USAPA shall take the necessary steps to effect such withdrawal and voluntary dismissal
within seven (7) calendar days of the execution of this Agreement


Protocol Agreement, APA Proposal 6/18/14 


Dated: June __, 2014. 


ALLIED PILOTS ASSOCIATION 
By: 


US AIRLINE PILOTS ASSOCIATION 
By: 


AMERICAN AIRLINES, INC. 
By: 


US AIRWAYS, INC. 
By:

 
 
algflyr said:
Interesting from the APA:
 
https://public.alliedpilots.org/apa/AboutAPA/APAPublicNews/tabid/843/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/4586/Seniority-Integration-Protocol.aspx
 
SENIORITY INTEGRATION PROTOCOL: APA proposed a seniority integration protocol agreement today to the US Airline Pilots Association that incorporates USAPA's suggestions and addresses concerns their leadership has expressed. As you will see, the four-party protocol will include American Airlines and US Airways management as signatories. We'll update you once USAPA has responded to our proposal.
 
Interesting appearance of negotiations..
 
Let's see if their proposal is any different than their court filed request to have unilateral control upon SCS.....
 
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