2014 Maintenance & Related & AMFA Cards

[700UW]

The bad bad bad IAM agreement will have a negative affect on the on going transition negotiations at US/AA with the Passenger Service Group

Really? Are you sure about that?
 
As it had NO effect at US with the IAM and Fleet.

Dont let the facts get in your way.

 

[TRAVIS]

losing another sheep out of the IAM fold?????

 

[john john]

Really? Are you sure about that?
 
As it had NO effect at US with the IAM and Fleet.
Dont let the facts get in your way.

The above the wing UA contract is being use as the scope to compare Passenger Service Group with by the company
It is a trophy for management. IT IS A BAD CONTRACT and hard to bargain against
It would be great if the unions could use the UA above the wing contact to its advantage this is not the case Again the above the wing UA IAM contract and the affect it has on the agent work group is/has/had an echo concern realizing this is simple going forward without this deduction would be naive
Are any of the RIF above the wing?

 

[700UW]

I guess you dont realize the AW and BW have the same language when it comes to outsourcing, and like I stated it had NO effect at US on the Fleet CBA, now did it?
 
Fleet at US has the best scope language in the industry.

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

I guess you dont realize the AW and BW have the same language when it comes to outsourcing, and like I stated it had NO effect at US on the Fleet CBA, now did it?
 
Fleet at US has the best scope language in the industry.

 
700UW Again you bring up Fleet when this thread is about maintenance and related, The signing of AMFA Cards.
 
 Fleet having the best scope in the industry vers the mechanics & Related
 
THIS THE REASON WHY WE NEED OUR OWN UNION>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

[700UW]

 
700UW Again you bring up Fleet when this thread is about maintenance and related, The signing of AMFA Cards.
 
 Fleet having the best scope in the industry vers the mechanics & Related
 
THIS THE REASON WHY WE NEED OUR OWN UNION>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 
 

Is this the union you really want to represent you guys?   The IAM was the representational union that also agreed to all the outsourcing of maint at UAL.  This article is focused on the 100 at Port  Columbus but will effect hundreds upon hundreds more almost reaching 1,000,s.  Time to sign those AMFA cards:
 
United Airlines to lay off 100 at Port Columbus

 
 

The bad bad bad IAM agreement will have a negative affect on the on going transition negotiations at US/AA with the Passenger Service Group

Can you not comprehend?
 
An AMFA represented mechanic brought up Fleet at UA and followed by JohnJohn, not I.
 
Once again your powers of deductive reasoning are simply amazing.

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

 
 
 
 
Can you not comprehend?
 
An AMFA represented mechanic brought up Fleet at UA and followed by JohnJohn, not I.
 
Once again your powers of deductive reasoning are simply amazing.

 
You are not an Airline employee any longer, not represented by either the TWU or the IAM, and by your own words you don't work for the IAM.
 
Yet you still think you have a right to voice your opinion about every subject on every thread on this entire forum.
 
You never worked at AA and you never held an A&P lic. yet you know all about the maintenance of aircraft and what we need to better our
class and craft.
 
My reasoning is fine, since this effects airline workers, and again you are NOT,  You are just so ate up with the IAM and have no life after the airlines
You feel the need to post and post and post.
 
This is a free board, and no one can stop you, but you have been asked by many here to stay away yet you are still here, so who reasoning is Flaud?
 
AMFA for the mechanics at the NEW AA. 2014

 

[700UW]

Once again since you were wrong ,and cant admit it you attack the poster instead of the topic at hand.
 
Your own AMFA represented mechanic brought up UA, not I.
 
Im not going anywhere, if you dont like it, use the ignore feature.

 

[swamt]

Back on topic....  Can anyone give an update on how the card drive is going at US?  Looks like the time frame gets extended each and every week that the NMB puts off the final ruling, which is now going into 9 weeks since filing...

 

[TRAVIS]

Back on topic....  Can anyone give an update on how the card drive is going at US?  Looks like the time frame gets extended each and every week that the NMB puts off the final ruling, which is now going into 9 weeks since filing...

It doesn't look like the IAM and TWU are going to pull this one over on the NMB and you can bet they are sweating bullets or my I say the IAM is because they will lose the whole membership ramp and mx.
Can't say what is going on at CLT,PIT, PHX or PHL no ones talking in MX. I think AMFA is keep the numbers under raps, Time will tell.
They may have learned a lesson and not give the IAM or TWU any info.
I'm betting on a vote and then a runoff vote for MX and the IAM will be gone with the first vote and the TWU on the runoff with AMFA in at the NEW AA.
TIME FOR A CHANGE IN THE GUARD BOYS PUT YOUR AMFA CARDS IN NOW!!! or welcome to the TWU because the IAM is sure to be OUT THE DOOR!!!!

 

[swamt]

It doesn't look like the IAM and TWU are going to pull this one over on the NMB and you can bet they are sweating bullets or my I say the IAM is because they will lose the whole membership ramp and mx.
Can't say what is going on at CLT,PIT, PHX or PHL no ones talking in MX. I think AMFA is keep the numbers under raps, Time will tell.
They may have learned a lesson and not give the IAM or TWU any info.
I'm betting on a vote and then a runoff vote for MX and the IAM will be gone with the first vote and the TWU on the runoff with AMFA in at the NEW AA.
TIME FOR A CHANGE IN THE GUARD BOYS PUT YOUR AMFA CARDS IN NOW!!! or welcome to the TWU because the IAM is sure to be OUT THE DOOR!!!!

They are keeping the numbers under control.  AIM has mentioned some numbers in other threads but they were all ball park.  I do know the numbers on both sides.  A little more work with a little more time is only in every ones favor.  I am thinking there will be a vote, I don't think the NMB would allow this association go thru (which is the argument between me and 700 currently) but the end question will be who will the vote be for?  TWU/IAM run off with the possibility of AMFA either being on the ballot, (hopefully) or being a write-in option.   Or will the NMB allow this alliance to move forward with a vote for the alliance or against in which should trigger the run-off if voted against.  I do not think your only choices will be union or non-union as previously suggested and ran by 700 and the alliance.  As long as the NMB is conducting this vote, you guys will AT LEAST have a write-in option (some times refered to as "other") if not have AMFA on the ballot as well.   I do not believe the NMB will allow this alliance just to float on thru without a membership vote in it, since they have not had a say-so in it so far.  The "other" alliance folks are talking about out here had a membership vote for the two to join as an alliance, therefore the NMB allowed it to go thru w/o a second vote.  There has been no vote from the members wht-so-ever so far in this alliance trying to be slid thru the NMB.  But, I have seen some shady crap done by the NMB in the past and this is what bothers me.  Only time will tell, but it seems to be taking alot longer than it should be SOMETHING is up, what that is we don't know, yet...

 

[TRAVIS]

They are keeping the numbers under control.  AIM has mentioned some numbers in other threads but they were all ball park.  I do know the numbers on both sides.  A little more work with a little more time is only in every ones favor.  I am thinking there will be a vote, I don't think the NMB would allow this association go thru (which is the argument between me and 700 currently) but the end question will be who will the vote be for?  TWU/IAM run off with the possibility of AMFA either being on the ballot, (hopefully) or being a write-in option.   Or will the NMB allow this alliance to move forward with a vote for the alliance or against in which should trigger the run-off if voted against.  I do not think your only choices will be union or non-union as previously suggested and ran by 700 and the alliance.  As long as the NMB is conducting this vote, you guys will AT LEAST have a write-in option (some times refered to as "other") if not have AMFA on the ballot as well.   I do not believe the NMB will allow this alliance just to float on thru without a membership vote in it, since they have not had a say-so in it so far.  The "other" alliance folks are talking about out here had a membership vote for the two to join as an alliance, therefore the NMB allowed it to go thru w/o a second vote.  There has been no vote from the members wht-so-ever so far in this alliance trying to be slid thru the NMB.  But, I have seen some shady crap done by the NMB in the past and this is what bothers me.  Only time will tell, but it seems to be taking alot longer than it should be SOMETHING is up, what that is we don't know, yet...

Your right when you say the longer it takes the better, Gives more time for AMFA to get to the mech's as you say the others have not started a card drive.
SOMETHING is up, it might be a lot of IAM begging with the NMB..The writing is on the wall and they know it.
 
TIME IS RUNNING OUT PUT YOUR AMFA CARD IN NOW or welcome to the TWU......

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

Back on topic....  Can anyone give an update on how the card drive is going at US?  Looks like the time frame gets extended each and every week that the NMB puts off the final ruling, which is now going into 9 weeks since filing...

 
SWAMT
 
POST # 174 THIS THREAD, will give you the info your looking for....

 

[swamt]

 
SWAMT
 
POST # 174 THIS THREAD, will give you the info your looking for....

I know brother.  Just trying to get back on topic as some went astray there...

 

[Real tired]

 
SWAMT
 
POST # 174 THIS THREAD, will give you the info your looking for....

I still don't get where you get 4300 eligible.
 
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