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- Nov 4, 2003
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Instead of acting a child. Take this post of mine, break it down paragraph by paragraph and with your manual and your facts, prove that this is just a fantasy and not possible.
Do you deny that those imposed terms upon abbrogation could be this T/A? And that we would be in the same place contractually as a yes vote would result in, except that we have an open window to negotiate further? The Judge does not impose the terms, AA will do that and they can impose this T/A and move along with the process and continue to work towards consenual agreements.
Politically, Public Opinion, NMB Policy, and even Legally to have a tentative agreement on the table that would be the terms for 6 years that AA says they could live with and then to revert back to 3/22 would be a mistake. AA wants and needs labor peace more than you seem to be able to imagine. There is no strike, there is no replacement workers, there is no alternative but to have reasonably happy AMT's with the potential and understanding for more negotiations to continue.
Imposing 3/22 would create a war that AA would have on it's hands with the Maintenance Department and thus would not be productive to their desires and NEEDS at this time. They want an agreement, but their hands have been tied by the UCC, BK rules, the Judge, and the "me too" clauses as to what they can even offer us now.
And it doesn't take 6 years to get away from those obstacles. Unless you vote yes and make it that long.
I agree with you that the 2010 T/A is still far better than anything we will see while AA is in Bankruptcy and beyond now, but once the company gets an approved plan of reorganization, the "me too" clauses of the other work groups expire, at that time, given that the Mechanic and Related group is the only group that was already last in the industry going in, I think have a very high chance of getting a better agreement. In other words, once we are away from the eyes of the UCC and the Judge, and AA has emerged, we stand a better chance of something worth voting on. Could be that pressure mounts to have that agreement before any plan to emerge is approved. Nobody knows that aspect. But it doesn't change the fact that Labor Peace is key to success.
In contrast, if this passes, we are stuck for 6 long years, or at least until early open becomes an option but that was of no value on our current agreement, it was there, and never used. Is there risk in my opinion of the situation? Yes, but given the extensive cost of the current T/A, and the fact that Job Security is gone completely, I think the risk is worth a look at moving towards the next step without giving them this version of consensual agreement or force another round of ermegency negotiations. But that requires one to eliminate the FEAR, and view this from logical thinking about what the next steps going forward would look like.
You look at this from the worst possible outcome, and that is just not the most likely outcome, possible yes, likely no.
I am willing to move forward in the process, and to reach the point that the UCC and the Judge is no longer an obstacle to us getting our fair share. If the company is as evil as you claim they would be upon abbrogation, then management would be offering this T/A to appease the courts, but you and I sure as hell would not see them making vote yes videos, and traveling the system peddling the crap. And allowing Union Meetings on company time while screaming labor cost problems would be unthinkable and never allowed. Think about it. Your opinion of abbrogation is worse for us, which must be better for them, but for some reason the company doesn't want to experience that either. What is your logical explanation for that?
You have the Line AMT's trying to help you get a better agreement, but you keep picking up the 20 lbs sledge hammer and driving the division wedge in deeper. The real strength of your union is asking you to help them, and you are doing all in your power to destroy that strength because you are afraid. And you are only afraid because your Local Leaders and AA Management are using fear to control your emotions. Just start looking at this mess from a less emotional view and try the logical view. While keeping in mind the fact that you have been lied to before by not only Local 514 Leaders but also AA Management.
The Line AMT is not your enemy here! Your enemy is FEAR!
