White Male Club

[EastUS1]

The republic thanks you for your service but you are a artifact of the past. 

 
Sweetie...you sure-as-hell-ain't the Republic, but thanks anyway, and FYI; you're purely an artifact of Fantasyland.

 

[traderjake]

Pentagon Training Manual
 
As expected, I agree with most of the manual.  Not sure I would go so far as to define evangelicals and the like as terrorists, at least not how I define the term.  
 
 

 
Minus 13 on this post, I think that's a new record.

 

[EastUS1]

 
Minus 13 on this post, I think that's a new record.

 
LOL. Indeed Jake....There may yet be hope for all of us in America....

 

[eolesen]

According to the Pentagon there were 3,200 assaults in 2211-2012 fiscal year.  How does that compare with the national average?  You made a claim.  Lets see if you are right this time.

CDC reported ~6M rapes and physical assaults on both men and women in 2011, of which ~1M were rapes.

For a population of ~311M people, that's 1.92% of the US population under assault+rape, and 0.32% for rape alone.

Active duty averages ~1.5M people, so your 3,200 assaults comes out to 0.21% of the active duty military population, or 0.13% if you include active+reserves.

So, yes, Twig, the statistics do hold up the premise that you're more likely to be raped as a civilian than you are to be assaulted *or* raped in the military, and 10x more likely to be assaulted *or* raped as a civilian than you are in the military.

Feel free to try and argue some tangent all you wish....

I'm sure you'd like everyone to believe that only 1 out of every 10 assaults or rapes gets reported in the military, yet the same probability would exist in the civilian population, as not every assault or rape is reported for the CDC to run statistics against.....

 

[Ms Tree]

 
Sweetie...you sure-as-hell-ain't the Republic, but thanks anyway, and FYI; you're purely an artifact of Fantasyland.

 
Facts don't agree with you.  Women and gays are in the military.  Same sex marriage is on the horizon.  Universal health care is in it's infancy and hopefully will morph into single payer once people realize that the systems in place through out the rest of the western world are, over all, far better than this garbage we have here.  
 
You are just an old artifact of a time long gone.  Very few care about your views on tradition.  I'd say I feel your pain but I don't and I could not care less. 

 

[Ms Tree]

CDC ~6M rapes and physical assaults on both men and women in 2011. 1M were rapes.

For a population of 300M people, that's 2% of the US population under assault+rape, and 0.3% for rape alone.

Active duty averages ~1.5M people, so your 3,200 assaults comes out to 0.2% of the military population.

So, yes, Twig, the statistics do hold up the premise that you're more likely to be assaulted or raped as a civilian than you are to be assaulted or raped in the military...

Feel free to try and argue some tangent all you wish....

Congratulations, you pulled a fact out of your butt that looks like it may have been right.  A difference of 1/10th of 1% is a pretty small difference.  
 
One would think that the military with their emphasis on honor and order that they could keep people in line.  Then again, given the leadership it's no surprise.  

 

[EastUS1]

 
Facts don't agree with you.  Women and gays are in the military.  Same sex marriage is on the horizon.  Universal health care is in it's infancy and hopefully will morph into single payer once people realize that the systems in place through out the rest of the western world are, over all, far better than this garbage we have here.  

 
Whew! If that's not an entirely incoherent and utterly mindless rant, then I've never seen one.
 
"Facts don't agree with you." Exactly which/what supposed "facts" do you even imagined you've offered?

 

[Ms Tree]

 
The President is commander in chief of the armed forces making him a civilian officer.
 
And you seem to waste a lot of posting blathering over nothingness.

Civilian officer?  What branch is that in?

 

[Ms Tree]

 
Whew! If that's not an entriely incoherent and utterly mindless rant, then I've never seen one.
 
"Facts don't agree with you." Exactly which/what supposed "facts" do you even imagined you've offered?

I'm sorry if the conversation is beyond your intellectual ability.  I'm trying to speak as simply as possible.
 
The facts are the reality of the world we live in not the backward stone age you want to return to.

 

[EastUS1]

One would think that the military with their emphasis on honor and order that they could keep people in line.  Then again, given the leadership it's no surprise.  

 
 "Then again, given the leadership it's no surprise."...? Umm...and I'd heard that o-boy-mama was the Commander in Chief? What'd I miss lately?

 

[EastUS1]

I'm sorry if the conversation is beyond your intellectual ability.  I'm trying to speak as simply as possible.
 
The facts are the reality of the world we live in not the backward stone age you want to return to.

 
No worries there dear. You, most very certainly, have been speaking "as simply as possible". What's lacking is any semblance of substance....

 

[Ms Tree]

 
 "Then again, given the leadership it's no surprise."...? Umm...and I'd heard that o-boy-mama was the Commander in Chief? What'd I miss lately?

A lot.

 

[EastUS1]

A lot.

 
Previously addressed: No worries there dear. You, most very certainly have been speaking "as simply as possible". What's lacking is any semblance of substance....
 
Your suggested homework assignment: Construct even the slightest, viable argument for social experimentation being a reasonable and foundational element for increasing military effectiveness, specifically within the context of young ladies, minorities and gays.....? If you can manage such...We'll talk again.
 
Hint: But, but...I wanna' go, and it's my right to go, doesn't constitute any such argument. I refer you again to the Olympic/World Team example earlier. But Mom!...I wanna' go to the Championships! fails to get anyone selected...just sayin'....Are you suggesting that should change as well, just to suit your "Brave New World"?

 

[Ms Tree]

 
No worries there dear. You, most very certainly, have been speaking "as simply as possible". What's lacking is any semblance of substance....

 
Well, not sure what to say.  May be a friend can help you understand.
 
I can play this jousting game all day long if you like.  Make no difference to me.

 

[EastUS1]

 
Well, not sure what to say.  May be a friend can help you understand.
 
I can play this jousting game all day long if you like.  Make no difference to me.

 
Your suggested homework assignment: Construct even the slightest, viable argument for social experimentation being a reasonable and foundational element for increasing military effectiveness, specifically within the context of young ladies, minorities and gays.....? If you can manage such...We'll talk again.
 
Hint: But, but...I wanna' go, and it's my right to go, doesn't constitute any such argument. I refer you again to the Olympic/World Team example earlier. But Mom!...I wanna' go to the Championships! fails to get anyone selected...just sayin'....Are you suggesting that should change as well, just to suit your "Brave New World"?
 
"I can play this jousting game all day long if you like." 'Tis a pity you're evidently incapable of rational response to the above. This might have become at least slightly interesting. Oh well.