What would happend if we merge again?

[Phoenix]

I'm not the one who clings to DOH which wasn't been used to merge pilot seniority lists since last century.

I'm not the one who prefers last century's payrates to getting a new contract.

I see in your case human nature doesn't change either.

You also aren't the one who has any respect for democracy or the SCOTUS.

 

[Dont call me Shirley]

Can we please keep the pilot seniority issue out of this thread? Thank you.

 

[Move2CLT]

What happens if we merge move2clt will be busted to the ramp

"Busted to the..." - what is that? Army talk from the 50's? How about learning some contemporary corporate lingo Harry!!

 

[Move2CLT]

Can we please keep the pilot seniority issue out of this thread? Thank you.

He started it!

 

[Phoenix]

Can we please keep the pilot seniority issue out of this thread? Thank you.

The first post response on page 1 was about seniority. A page 8 request might be too little too late.

 

[Harry Callahan]

"Busted to the..." - what is that? Army talk from the 50's? How about learning some contemporary corporate lingo Harry!!

No need to.

 

[Move2CLT]

No need to.

Of course not friend. Old people hate change. Right friend?

 

[Harry Callahan]

Of course not friend. Old people hate change. Right friend?

For once we agree

 

[Phoenix]

Of course not friend. Old people hate change. Right friend?

Oh, please, get a room.

 

[Move2CLT]

For once we agree

Since we're BFFs now, I will help you out.

I would have said "you'll be right-sized into a ground operation position that properly, and most effectively, suits your skill set."

Now that's a burn in corporate speak and I would have been crushed. With no retort, I would have signed off here for good because of the acute humiliation and just plain being pwned. And I would never have come back.

You were so close.

 

[nycbusdriver]

But hey WTF do I know

You nailed it! Bravo!

 

[nycbusdriver]

I think Doug is speaking to AMR about a deal. The following information is more of the rumor type with comments and speculation, but here's my take.

1. There are message board reports on USaviation.com's website that APA President Dave Bates briefed the MIA Domicile late last month that he was recently at an industry conference, he personally talked to Scott Kirby, and Bates indicated US Airways was targeting AMR.

2. DFW station personnel are telling crews that Doug Parker, Scott Kirby, Robert Isom, and Derek Kerr have been regularly flying in and out of DFW.

3. A colleague of ours I spoke with recently spoke with a Virgin America crew. The Virgin Crew said Parker recently flew between LAX and DFW (to hide his whereabouts?) on Virgin.

4. In last month's PHX F/A Crew News (I believe the F/A session - may have been one of the other 3 sessions) when the AMR merger question was asked, Parker confirmed he's been going to DFW on business.

5. I believe the slot transaction may no longer be desirable if a deal proceeds with AMR. in fact, at last week's Annual US Airways Management Conference in PHX the "executive suite" was not in attendance, which is unusual. Where were all of the Officers?

6. Yesterday US Airways' Market Capitalization was $810.41 million. American's Market Capitalization was even less at $801.14 million, which makes an out of bankruptcy stock swap attractive, but still leaves the combined company with too high of costs.

This is all rumor type information, although I believe all of the five points above to be true. Here's where I'm going with this:

Fall Quarter - LOA 93 decision goes against USAPA and union neutered by Preliminary Injunction court order.

December 2011 - Slot Transaction decision

March 2012 - Bid to acquire AMR, pre-packaged bankruptcy to preserve cash, agreements with AMR unions to freeze pension/create a DC Plan, promise to APA/USAPA of DAL +1%, agreements with Boeing/Airbus and other creditors to keep aircraft, engine, and other deliveries intact.

December 2012 - DJ lawsuit decision, federal government does not oppose merger and US Airways-AMR file Hart-Scott-Rodino notice.

US Airways surviving entity, which bypasses East COC provision. Combined business entity called American Airlines. Pilot's offered DAL + 1 percent to support deal. Assuming the District Court rules the Nicolau Award is the list then this would be USAPA's list when we enter into the MacCaskill-Bond federal law seniority integration.

The NMB holds a representation election. APA becomes our union and Cleary & Co. is removed from office. Parker does not have to deal with USAPA ever again, USAPA folds, and Parker gets what he wants.

As a colleague of ours said, "(Parkers) got a court's decision that US Airways' pilots even so much as calling in fatigued may be in violation of the RLA. What more could the CEO of a LCC want? Checkmate."

Wow! Sounds like you have it down cold. Do you see this as another "unique corporate transaction?" Do you think it will turn out just as true as your previous predictions?

What a joke.

 

[FWAAA]

Sounds like someone wants to move up to a shiny 777.

 

[signals]

Merge again? Maybe you should get that last merger together before talking merger. But we all know that merger season is around the corner and it's time to cry merger wolf

Better hope AA doesn't merge with US because locally, US doesn't want them to use their baggage belt. So much for peaceful coexistance

 

[LUVJAMESC4EVER]

If AA does not turn around, it might...take a look at this article

"Bankruptcy laws allow a smaller airline, like US Airways, to own a bigger one, like American."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/07/airlines-idUSN1E79507X20111007