hp_fa
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At least your not in the hp-fa $5M camp. Since inception, first year USAPA attorney fees <$188K.
Senior Snoop, I said in that post a minimum of $1 Mil and that I would not be surprised at $5 Mil.
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At least your not in the hp-fa $5M camp. Since inception, first year USAPA attorney fees <$188K.
Snoop,
Did you call your rep today?
Does he have an estimate on legal costs yet?
Maybe we have to wait until after the trial before they inform the membership what tis little journey has cost.
urban dictionaryYes they are. They are obviously unhappy that Judge Wake determined that the issue set for trial has been determined to be ripe for litigation. USAPA had vigorously argued both that the matter was already time-barred and that it hadn't yet reached a stage where litigation was appropriate. Again, they were setting a record for appeal, but it is really difficult to get a favorable ruling when you argue both arguments and they run counter to one another.
The other thing that is going on is both parties are laying the foundation for the record concerning possible appeals. That is standard in all litigations. They are looking for trial court errors in evidence presented, which is appealable. Whether a party appeals is a decision to be made later, however you always try and preserve the record.
urban dictionary
1. xxxx house lawyer
""An unqualified person who gives legal advice. Usually distorting the advice to favor a desired outcome.
You need to stop listening to that xxxx house lawyer or you're gonna get screwed!""
I am disappointed that you did not respond to to my point regarding MERGING the seniority lists. I am more than happy to be arranged by DOH within MY original airline. But when it comes to MERGING seniority list ....
And...here we have the point on which all our differences rest = DOH, within your own airline seemed completely reasonable. Why not? It was being universally applied to all within the same trade craft. HOWEVER...once that easily-seen-to-be fully-reasonable principal no longer suited the "Meee!" part of the equation...it..well...ummm....just what did happen? = It no longer served to better your own purposes, so you all chose to disregard it, and for NO other reason than that last. My belief's that it's every bit as reasonable when applied to any larger group within the same trade craft....period. I would now, and have always in the past, felt exactly that same way even when it completely ill suited any issues of my own gain, and in fact, disadvantaged me personally. Disregarding essential fundamentals and principals produces nothing but opportunism and strife. Any argument as to the strife part? Any/All out west can trumpet away about supposed "honor".."integrity"..etc..but that's the actual truth of things, at least as I see it.
I HAD a job May 19th of 2005. 1700+ east pilots who are currently working did not. Your position reeks of convenience. You yourself have nothing to lose by your own admission... I, on the other hand, am the sole provider for my family of 5.
I had no hand in the setbacks in the careers of east pilots and I will be damned if I am left to be some sort of restitution. I'll be glad when this is over. And *if* we win I will find great satisfaction in knowing it is eating you alive... Ya know with the evil plot and all...
While I can easily understand your current stresses, and in no way wish them on anyone,....all of what you just posted is just another example of advancing concerned self interest, and has zero to do with adhering to principals or integrity.
I truly hope you'll be back on the line soon, or, better yet, perhaps take the advice of an irritating antique, and consider better ways for establishing an income stream for you and yours, that are less insane, fickle and financially unrewarding as this airline stuff has become.
You and your fellow pilots haven't the credit to spew your righteous indignation while ignoring a legal and binding agreement.
Which seniority list is Hemenway refering to as the list?
Nicalau...
Disregarding essential fundamentals and principals produces nothing but opportunism and strife. Any argument as to the strife part?
Hardly.
If you really took the time to read what Hemenway said, he parsed his words very carefully. In effect, he is saying that there is no seniority list until there is a combined contract. And, he's right. If he meant anything otherwise, he would have referred to Nicolau, or the USAPA proposal. Bottom line:
Mr. Hemenway is saying that, as far as the company is concerned, the issue of a seniority list is yet to be determined.