UA + CO

[JungleClone]

Oh, make no mistake about it folks, this merger is coming. And sooner than you think. Bulscu is right. It's a done deal. And a real, competent management team will be taking the helm.

 

[UnitedChicago]

Oh, make no mistake about it folks, this merger is coming. And sooner than you think. Bulscu is right. It's a done deal. And a real, competent management team will be taking the helm.

what are you sources? not debating you - just geniunely interested in what's afoot if anything. what will it be called? united-continental?

 

[boxer]

what are you sources? not debating you - just geniunely interested in what's afoot if anything. what will it be called? united-continental?

My brother-in-law's barber's wife's second cousin tells me the new company will move to Los Angeles and will be called:

Taa-daa

UCLA


Oh well, slow news day.

 

[AIRBORN1]

The truth is that this merger is going to happen and it's a done deal. I do have my
resources and I will not reveal them. Just wait until fall 2006.. you will find out the
truth. CO-UAL> The new company will be kept as UNITED AIRLINES, because of the
ASIAN routes.. no more said.. just listen and wait. Those of you in denial it's ok.
we are all in denial until it happens. The EWR base was closed for a reason for the
inflight crew members. Co, will continue this base alone for about 2years until
the merge is fully together and all staff is retrained to fly different aircraft.

what are you sources? not debating you - just geniunely interested in what's afoot if anything. what will it be called? united-continental?

 

[UnitedChicago]

Just wait until fall 2006.. .

so they've inked a deal and just decided to wait until fall to announce. that's not reality

 

[JungleClone]

The deal hasn't been officially inked. But it inches every closer each day. Let's just say that it's down to the minute details. Think about the situation the industry finds itself in in terms of the un-stable geo-political situation and the continued rise and volatility of oil. When you do, a CO/UA isn't so far-fetched, is it? DOJ will sign off with a few carve-outs of route overlap. This merger, depending on the timing of the announcement, will either touch off or speed up the long-discussed radical restructuring of the domestic US airline industry.

It's going to happen, folks. Laugh all that you like. I sincerely hope the hurt on employees is as minimal as humanly possible. But this combined airline will be much better off for the future than the two existing airlines on their own.

 

[Bear96]

And you know all of this because _______ ? (Fill in the blank.)

 

[Bulscu]

And you know all of this because ___ocd____ ? (Fill in the blank.)

 

[AIRBORN1]

Read today business news on United $1billion debt from Fuel prices.
The news states that this is one step closer to putting United into a merge
because of the fuel prices. I can't believe you guys are in denial of this merge.
The fuel prices are going to also put Jetblue out of business or merge.
DOJ WILL allow these mergers for many reasons

 

[Fly]

I thought Northwest had a poison share.

 

[Bear96]

Read today business news on United $1billion debt from Fuel prices.
The news states that this is one step closer to putting United into a merge
because of the fuel prices.

How does a merger help fuel prices? Rather than one step closer to a merge, $70+/barrel oil puts UA, CO, and all the others one step closer to bankruptcy.

I can't believe you guys are in denial of this merge.
The fuel prices are going to also put Jetblue out of business or merge.
DOJ WILL allow these mergers for many reasons

In case "you guys" includes me, let's clarify.

I don't really see anyone "in denial" here, rather, peole are just asking for something to back up your assertion.

You seem to assume I am "in denial" about a merger, as if I am taking that a position that a merger is not going to happen. Not true. I have no idea whether a UA/CO merger will happen. It might; it might not. I really have no idea.

You really have no idea either, yet you can't admit that.

I don't know whether a merger will happen, nor do I really care (it won't affect me one bit, either way). Therefore there is nothing for me to be "in denial" about. I am not "denying" that a merger will happen. Maybe it will. Fine. Probably it won't. That's fine too. Whatever. Maybe UA will shut its doors completely tomorrow. Maybe CO will merge with WN. Who knows in this business what tomorrow holds -- certainly I don't pretend to know the unknowable (unlike you).

However, when someone makes repeated, cryptic posts that something pretty major is definitely about to happen, it is perfectly legitimate to ask him or her on what he is basing his assertions. It doesn't mean the person asking is "denying" anything. It just means that the person asking would like to know where the information is coming from, so we can all be as informed as you pretend to be, and draw our own conclusions.

So, I'll ask again: You know a UA / CO merger is imminent because __________________ (fill in the blank).

Share with the ignorant masses, O all-knowing one.

 

[SoftLanding]

Read today business news on United $1billion debt from Fuel prices.
The news states that this is one step closer to putting United into a merge
because of the fuel prices. I can't believe you guys are in denial of this merge.
The fuel prices are going to also put Jetblue out of business or merge.
DOJ WILL allow these mergers for many reasons

The only way I'll believe the President and Congress will allow the legacies to merge is if foreign airlines will be allowed to buy, without restriction, an airline in the US.

Delta and Northwest could be a merger partner for the legacies; do not believe UAL & CAL will be...Though, I have been wrong before...

Believe Alaska Airlines, AirTran, JetBlue would be the ones to be bought/merged. Especially ALK...

How to find out? Look at the tracks...in the charts of these airlines...

SoftLanding

 

[kiowa]

The only way I'll believe the President and Congress will allow the legacies to merge is if foreign airlines will be allowed to buy, without restriction, an airline in the US.

You hit the nail on the head!

 

[Bear96]

The only way I'll believe the President and Congress will allow the legacies to merge is if foreign airlines will be allowed to buy, without restriction, an airline in the US.

I don't mean to be dense, but what is the connection between legacies merging and foreign ownership?

 

[SoftLanding]

I don't mean to be dense, but what is the connection between legacies merging and foreign ownership?

You're not dense, maybe I did not make myself clear, or it required some thinking on the readers part 😉

To me it's clear: The politicians have to hide behind something, and allowing foreign airlines to buy up US airlines would do this. This would be a green light for the legacies to merge...

If UAL/CO announced they were merging, wouldn't consumer groups come out of the wood-work with the aim to "protect" the public against "higher airfares/less competition" etc. etc.? They would use the fact that in today's environment (lots of competition), airlines have instituted several fare hikes.

The fact that airlines are not making any money, is besides the point, airlines are being seen by the public as public utilities; the "we want" low airfares" mentality.

Hense the connection between legacies merging and foreign ownership.


SoftLanding