you are wrong because it is 5 years later with a very different set of economic conditions and you know it. What drove the economic conditons after 9/11, are different than today's debacle. The Vermont plan is over and done with, never implemented. You have railed here for the past 5 years on the same issues. At some point one needs to let go and move on and either get a different line of work, or accept the situation we are all facing has changed the playing field and not to our advantage. Or is your issue more personnal because of Pan Am going under?