TWU negotiations.........what?

[The Goose]

Very interesting; I didn't know they made the promise to ask for everything back in 2006. In retrospect they probably should have gone after salary increases a lot sooner, as oil would have been much lower. The flip side is that, if they had, there might be a lot more furloughs than we'll see now.

Once AA returns to profitability I hope you guys get your concessions back.

They made the promise, all right. Damn - I got a great laugh from thatat that time. It's just like taxes - they never go away either.

Many missed the words "Permanent Concessions" that started flying around soon after the POS contract was ratified in 2003.

 

[getreal]

Many missed the words "Permanent Concessions" that started flying around soon after the POS contract was ratified in 2003.

Maybe that's why AA is" Permanently" at the bottom of all the DOT rankings. <_<

 

[frontline]

Maybe that's why AA is" Permanently" at the bottom of all the DOT rankings. <_<

What are you trying to imply here? That you purposely do a slack job because you're mad a management? That's not the passengers fault and I refuse to condone such behavior. I take pride in my work and hope you do, too. That's not to say we can't fight for a good package, but as far as I am concerned any idea of doing less than my job is unacceptable.

 

[Chuck Schalk]

"hot rumor is, and it is probably true due to the TWU internaional past sell outs, is that Don the fat man slid in some side agreements after all the presidents left except a select few. If this comes to be the truth we all need to vent our discuss to him personally and the bought and paid for unelected and unaccountable six figure income TWU international"



If this is true, who are the presidents who left thursday night and the international is up to their old tricks. Why must we allow the TWU International undermine our negotiations. They are self-serving and the TWU taking over the medical is not the best idea as they have proven they can't manage anything that benefits the members!

 

[The Dissident]

What are you trying to imply here? That you purposely do a slack job because you're mad a management? That's not the passengers fault and I refuse to condone such behavior. I take pride in my work and hope you do, too. That's not to say we can't fight for a good package, but as far as I am concerned any idea of doing less than my job is unacceptable.

Nobody I know is doing a slack job it just takes them a little bit longer to get it done. Gotta be the best quality we can supply!!!!

 

[getreal]

What are you trying to imply here? That you purposely do a slack job because you're mad a management? That's not the passengers fault and I refuse to condone such behavior. I take pride in my work and hope you do, too. That's not to say we can't fight for a good package, but as far as I am concerned any idea of doing less than my job is unacceptable.

Nope Frontline, not implying that at all. Doing my job the same way I have for the past 25 plus years. But........I hope your not naive enough not to see a correlation. We were at one time the "On Time Machine". Somethings changed and it ain't always the weather!

 

[jetmechjer]

Nope Frontline, not implying that at all. Doing my job the same way I have for the past 25 plus years. But........I hope your not naive enough not to see a correlation. We were at one time the "On Time Machine". Somethings changed and it ain't always the weather!

Over 7 years ago the company told me and all other mechanics that were were worthy of 7 dollars more an hour and many other benefits. A little over 5 years ago they came back and forced concessions on us all with the biggest lie ever "pull together win together!" They then said I was not worth that 7 dollars an hour nor many other benefits I had for many many years. So since the time that they raped us with the consent of the TWU Internaional I have proved everyday that they are right I am not worth the 7 dollars an hour or all the other bennies. Ya get what ya pay for. That is why morale is the lowest I have ever seen and our performance is the worst ever!!! I am AA and I still love AA but I hate to watch my company suffer from years and years of mismanagement.
F.U.R.P.
Families Under Reduced Pay still after all these years. :down: :down:

 

[lpbrian]

Wow, this thread is getting old.

 

[SkydrolJunkie]

Yup, very old.

 

[getreal]

Wow, this thread is getting old.

Along with a few others.......But hey, there's no topic or thread rule that says you or I have to read them.
What's old to some could be quite entertaining to others! :unsure:

 

[Hopeful]

Wow, this thread is getting old.

57,002 views of this post can't be wrong!

 

[Chuck Schalk]

Wow, this thread is getting old.

Read this thread from the beginning and see how old things become new.

 

[nycbusop]

Bear I realize that the bases are the majority of the problem. Although it was not by very much,AFW voted no. The majority of the yes voters came from 530-KC and 514-Tulsa. Tulsa voted 68% yes and KC voted 73% yes. Chuck mentioned fear facture and I agree Chicken Little didn't have the balls to show up at the 2nd largest local (AFW). He decided to send his flunky lawyer. We had a group of about 10 people from AFW that went to Tulsa to pass out fliers at the Brady Theater in Tulsa when Chicken Little showed up for his fear campaign. The 514 was informed informed of their intention and arrival in advance by one of the people in the group and they were not allowed in. I don't know of any other union/local that would not allow a member in good standings in to another locals meeting.

YOU CALLED LITTLE "CHICKEN LITTLE".WE NEVER HEARD THAT BEFORE IN NEW YORK.WE ARE COMING UP WITH OUR OWN BUNCH OF NAMES FOR LITTLE.HE IS ALLOWING LOCAL 100 TO BE DAMAGED TO THE POINT WHERE IT IS UNFIXABLE.LITTLE AND HIS CRONIES ON THE INTERNATIONAL APPEALS COMMITTEE ARE LETTING TOUSSAINT AND HIS APPOINTED STAFF RUN AMUCK IN THE LOCAL.THE DICTATORSHIP OF TOUSSAINT IS GOING FULL TROTTLE.TOUSSAINT IS SINGLE HANDEDLY KILLING OUR UNION.WHAT KIND OF UNION LEADER LAUNCHES A STRIKE AND FOLDS LIKE A HOUSE OF CARDS WHEN THE PICKET LINES ARE HOLDING STRONG?WE SHUT DOWN THE CITY OF NEW YORK FOR THREE BEAUTIFUL DAYS AND TOUSSAINT CAVES IN WHEN THE GOING GOT TOUGH.HE BROUGHT US BACK WITHOUT ANY CONTRACT IN PLACE,BRAGGING THAT HE WOULD DELIVER A GOLDEN AGREEMENT FOR ALL OUR EFFORTS.A WEEK LATER HE ANNOUNCED THAT WE WOULD BE PAYING INTO OUR HEALTH BENEFITS FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER.MOST BUS OPERATORS PAID CLOSE TO $2,000 IN 2007.TOUSSANT IS THE PITS AND LITTLE SUCKS TOO.TOUSSAINT IS A CUTTHOAT COMMUNIST DICTATOR AND LITTLE IS WHIMP.

 

[DallasConehead]

YOU CALLED LITTLE "CHICKEN LITTLE".WE NEVER HEARD THAT BEFORE IN NEW YORK.WE ARE COMING UP WITH OUR OWN BUNCH OF NAMES FOR LITTLE.HE IS ALLOWING LOCAL 100 TO BE DAMAGED TO THE POINT WHERE IT IS UNFIXABLE.LITTLE AND HIS CRONIES ON THE INTERNATIONAL APPEALS COMMITTEE ARE LETTING TOUSSAINT AND HIS APPOINTED STAFF RUN AMUCK IN THE LOCAL.THE DICTATORSHIP OF TOUSSAINT IS GOING FULL TROTTLE.TOUSSAINT IS SINGLE HANDEDLY KILLING OUR UNION.WHAT KIND OF UNION LEADER LAUNCHES A STRIKE AND FOLDS LIKE A HOUSE OF CARDS WHEN THE PICKET LINES ARE HOLDING STRONG?WE SHUT DOWN THE CITY OF NEW YORK FOR THREE BEAUTIFUL DAYS AND TOUSSAINT CAVES IN WHEN THE GOING GOT TOUGH.HE BROUGHT US BACK WITHOUT ANY CONTRACT IN PLACE,BRAGGING THAT HE WOULD DELIVER A GOLDEN AGREEMENT FOR ALL OUR EFFORTS.A WEEK LATER HE ANNOUNCED THAT WE WOULD BE PAYING INTO OUR HEALTH BENEFITS FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER.MOST BUS OPERATORS PAID CLOSE TO $2,000 IN 2007.TOUSSANT IS THE PITS AND LITTLE SUCKS TOO.TOUSSAINT IS A CUTTHOAT COMMUNIST DICTATOR AND LITTLE IS WHIMP.

Another satisfied customer....... NOT!!! Welcome to the board, where we all share our thoughts aspirations blah blah blah.... But ,,, nothing changes... Cept me,,,, just brings me down everytime I log on... Just been loggin in lately to see what our next agreement will be cuz I know I'll get here first......Or from the newspaper...

 

[Bob Owens]

What are you trying to imply here? That you purposely do a slack job because you're mad a management? That's not the passengers fault and I refuse to condone such behavior. I take pride in my work and hope you do, too. That's not to say we can't fight for a good package, but as far as I am concerned any idea of doing less than my job is unacceptable.

Explain how you fight for better conditions in a way that has no effect on passengers. Management only reacts to workers concerns when failure to address those concerns affect the passengers. If there was an effective way for workers to get what they need without affecting the passengers they would do it.