TWU International visit to JFK

[Rogallo]

I could not have said stfu you idiot any better!!
 
Thank You FWAAA.

 

[Duke787]

That trash you voted yes for was to voluntarily give  concessions on what the company couldn't get its hand on.
 
You still haven't figured out what zero cost means yet, have you?

That is the perfect avatar for you. Head up your butt. $35k in your pocket is better then what we have now.

 

[comatose]

That is the perfect avatar for you. Head up your butt. $35k in your pocket is better then what we have now.

 
So again my avatar is the perfect reflection of the membership with a rudderless union.
 
It's perfect for all you yes voters.

 

[bigjets]

Comatose and duke you're both right so let it drop already, that was 4years ago! STFU and sign an AMFA card.

 

[Chuck Schalk]

Title 2 is starting to realize that amfa is not what the twu claims they are. First off title 2 is no longer under cargo and is now under aircraft maintenance with the new airline far as the company is concerned. Secondly the twu has stated that next negotiations there will be only 3 negotiators from AA and 3 negotiators from USA Air. The 3 presidents from AA will go from local 591,514, and 567. They said since title 2 does not have their own president their voice will be through those presidents above. With amfa you have your own negotiating chairman and committee to negotiate. Title 2 has slid backwards and regardless of what anyone says, title 2 head count has been cut in half and have created different payscales dividing the ranks.
With the airline doug parker and his team are not fuzzy friendly towards keeping title 2 just look at us air and their title 2 as a guide post.
Your best fighting chance is to have your group represented by your own people and that is exactly what amfaprovides for title 2. You control your negotiations and you make the final decision just like stores did with the last bk negotiations and negotiated their own terms. Why wouldn't want that for title 2 ?
you can......sign an amfa card and give your members a voice

The best advice I can give to our title 2 members is stop listening to hearsay and ask an amfa organizer questions about amfa or any concerns you may have. I assure you that any response from an organizer will be supported by documentation and/or facts.
at least see why 90 percent of the line sign amfa cards consistently. What is it that draws them back
everytime?

BTW.... twu local 501 has threatened title 2 members not to hand out amfa cards or else.....

 

[700UW]

There is no title 2 at US.

 

[2ndGENAMT]

But there is a classification that would fall into what is TWUs title II correct?

 

[700UW]

US doesnt have a title 2 list.
 
A mechanic is a mechanic, you have different bid areas, but they are all mechanics, you have APs who are in GSE or Plant Mtc.
 
They are all paid the same.
 
At AA not counting license pay, does an A&P, GSE and Plant Mtc mechanics all get the same rate of pay for their step on the pay scale or are they paid lower than an A&P?
 
And at US they dont have OSMs.

 

[MetalMover]

 
 
And at US they dont have OSMs.

They will when single carrier is declared.

 

[700UW]

Um no they wont, as PMUS employees will still be under their CBA and it doesnt contain OSMs and no one knows that will be in the JCBA when an agreement is reached.

 

[Chuck Schalk]

There is no title 2 at US.[/quote
exactly my point, that is why title 2 at american fall under aircraft maintenance

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Um no they wont, as PMUS employees will still be under their CBA and it doesnt contain OSMs and no one knows that will be in the JCBA when an agreement is reached.

You think they will try to claim UA no longer exist to subjugate the contract? What protects the PMUS employees from Parker and Friends attempting it?
 
I never thought I would be asking your opinion about anything but, here we are.

 

[700UW]

What are you talking about UA?

UA has nothing to do with this.
 
And you truly dont understand the process, no one at PMUS will be working under the PMAA CBA.
 
The Railway Labor Act protects PMUS.
 
That is why the company wants to enter JCBA negotiations ASAP.

 

[MetalMover]

Um no they wont, as PMUS employees will still be under their CBA and it doesnt contain OSMs and no one knows that will be in the JCBA when an agreement is reached.

Sorry, I meant when the JCBA is reached. You have to understand that Parker & Co. are going over the current TWU contracts and are realizing that they are the best that money can buy.

 

[Chuck Schalk]

US doesnt have a title 2 list.
 
A mechanic is a mechanic, you have different bid areas, but they are all mechanics, you have APs who are in GSE or Plant Mtc.
 
They are all paid the same.
 
At AA not counting license pay, does an A&P, GSE and Plant Mtc mechanics all get the same rate of pay for their step on the pay scale or are they paid lower than an A&P?
 
And at US they dont have OSMs.

that

US doesnt have a title 2 list.
 
A mechanic is a mechanic, you have different bid areas, but they are all mechanics, you have APs who are in GSE or Plant Mtc.
 
They are all paid the same.
 
At AA not counting license pay, does an A&P, GSE and Plant Mtc mechanics all get the same rate of pay for their step on the pay scale or are they paid lower than an A&P?
 
And at US they dont have OSMs.[/quo

same with amfa, title 2 get the same base rate of pay excluding license pay and they do not have osm, amt-o.
Title 2 is way underpaid with their class and craft under the twu.