TWU-IAM Finally Getting Ready for JCBA Negotiations

[xUT]

IMHO,
AFL/CIO already agreed to the 'association'.
twu/iam already agreed to the 'association'.
You are screwed and there isn't a damn thing you can do.
You will get no vote.
The AA M&R lost their chance to go AMFA and the rest will live under the 'association' umbrella for the rest of their career.
Too bad, sooo sad....
B) xUT

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

I would LOVE to see the total context of this statement.

Agree to what? Before or after the membership is balloted?

The IAM has no standing to agree to anything beyond backing away from the situation, just as the other two junior membership unions did in the FAs and Pilots siuation.

 
Agreed - If its in the manual as he says, it should be simple enough to provide a link.

 

[700UW]

There is nothing in the NMB Representational Manual about this situation.

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

There is nothing in the NMB Representational Manual about this situation.

 
There most certainly is.
 
Its the section entitled "Mergers"

 

[700UW]

Show me where there is about an association instead of a showing of interest between two different unions.

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

Show me where there is about an association instead of a showing of interest between two different unions.

 
The association is an applicant and per rule ALL applicants must provide a showing of interest

 

[700UW]

Well we shall see what the NMB says, you are all armchair lawyers, no one knows what the will do.

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

Well we shall see what the NMB says, you are all armchair lawyers, no one knows what the will do.

 
Oh spare me the armchair lawyer crap - I can read the manual, and its clear.
 

 
19.6 Procedure After Finding Single Transportation System
If the NMB determines that a single transportation system exists, the investigation will proceed to address the representation of the proper craft or class. The bar rules in NMB Rule §1206.4 (29 CFR § 1206.4) do not apply to applications filed under this section.
19.601 Showing of Interest on the Single Transportation System
All applicants must submit evidence of representation or showing of interest from at least fifty (50) percent of the employees in the craft or class.
Evidence of representation or showing of interest from incumbent organizations or individuals on the affected carrier(s) includes, but is not limited to, a seniority list, dues check-off list, a current collective bargaining agreement or a certification, or other indicia of current representation.
If the organization or individual filing the application does not represent any of the employees covered by the application,showing of interest is proved by valid authorization cards. (See Section 3.0)
19.602If not already filed with the initial application, organizations (Incumbents and Intervenors) have thirty (30) calendar days from the date of the NMB’s single transportation system determination to submit evidence of a showing of interest or to supplement the showing of interest on the single transportation system.
Applications that do not meet the showing of interest requirements will be dismissed.

 
 
If the NMB decides to try and certify the association without a vote/ 30 day intervenor period, in clear violation of their own rules, don't be surprised if there's a legal challenges

 

[700UW]

And the IAM and TWU filed jointly with the NMB for the association.
 
So you are a former A&P when did you get your JD in RLA and Labor Law?

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

And the IAM and TWU filed jointly with the NMB for the association.
 
So you are a former A&P when did you get your JD in RLA and Labor Law?

 
Here's a hint, you don't need a JD in RLA and Labor Law to read and understand the NMB representational manual. 
 
And filing jointly changes what? They(TWU/IAM association) are an applicant, and applicants per rule must provide a showing of interest.
 
Again, if the NMB violates their rules as published you should expect a challenge.

 

[700UW]

We shall see what the NMB says, I know you dont earn your living working for them nor being a labor law expert.

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

We shall see what the NMB says, I know you dont earn your living working for them nor being a labor law expert.

 
Yes, and its clearly obvious you don't either.

 

[CMH_GSE]

"If the organization or individual filing the application does not represent any of the employees covered by the application,showing of interest is proved by valid authorization cards."


Remind me again, how many employees are currently represented by the "association"?
I'll answer for you, none, zero.

This is no more than 7th grade reading level stuff and clearly, there is some crap going on.
By the letter of the manual, it should be TWU, and any other comers have 30 days to submit cards to get on the ballot, period.

The IAM and TWU filing "jointly" should carry the same weight as me and 700 filing jointly because we got together and thought it would be really cool to be a new thing called " the association".
We have no cards signed, not a one, but we filed jointly, same thing.

 

[700UW]

Never claimed I did, unlike you and others.

 

[2ndGENAMT]

Wasn't the RLA amended recently because the NMB decided to deviate from traditional rules?
What is stopping them from doing it again?