TWU and IAM representation alliance vote

[swamt]

So you're assuming that we are going to get fired if there is no union? Just like that? Fire thousands and thousands of us?
Outsourcing? we have it already....
 
Do you not understand the disgust and distaste we have for the TWU if we are willing to go non union? Of course I would prefer AMFA, but there will always be those who cower to the threats that you are spewing here.
 
Save your threats for the meek.

#1 scare tactic promoter working for the IAM that you responded to.
BTW, has anyone from AA or US wrote the NMB and find out what options will be on the ballot?  Has anyone wrote to find out who will be running this Alliance vote?  I have seen as many as 4 different opinions, but that is all they are so far opinions, not facts.   
 
No response from you WT.  I have you on ignore and really enjoy when this appears;  This post is hidden because you have chosen to ignore posts by WorldTraveler. View it anyway?

 

[MetalMover]

Doug is a #s guy, yes you will see most of heavy gone and he will outsource whatever he can.
 
Go look at his history at HP, all they did was a few c-checks, everything was farmed out.
 
Its not a threat, its the reality of business.
 
Go ask the PMUS Fleet Service and CSA what happened to them in 1992 with no union.

Go ask the PMAA cabin service what happened to them WITH union....MCI WITH UNION!  AFW WITH UNION....
Outsourcing will happen regardless. 

 

[700UW]

Go ask the PMAA cabin service what happened to them WITH union....MCI WITH UNION!  AFW WITH UNION....
Outsourcing will happen regardless. 

You truly dont get it, you dont understand bankruptcy and business.

No contract, no rules, you are an employee at will, say bye bye to 50% of the maintenance workforce.

And with a CBA at least you can negotiate and have written workrules, pay, benefits etc...
 

 

[MetalMover]

You truly dont get it, you dont understand bankruptcy and business.
No contract, no rules, you are an employee at will, say bye bye to 50% of the maintenance workforce.
And with a CBA at least you can negotiate and have written workrules, pay, benefits etc...
 

YOU truly do not get it....I and many others have ENOUGH of the TWU. Maybe you enjoy being a IAM lapdog or cheerleader or patron saint, who knows but there those of us who have had ENOUGH of the TWU. 
I understand bankruptcy very well and I understand that the TWU had given us a bankruptcy contract WITHOUT benefit of bankruptcy.
I also understand business. I understand that a company is supposed to get the best deal but I should not have my union HELP THEM ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS!
 
 
NO TO THE ALLIANCE!

 

[chellow]

You truly dont get it, you dont understand bankruptcy and business.
No contract, no rules, you are an employee at will, say bye bye to 50% of the maintenance workforce.
And with a CBA at least you can negotiate and have written workrules, pay, benefits etc...
 

The TWU is like not having a union, almost all contracts I have been part of have been  negotiated by the international in great part.  Look they gave away our profit sharing away for a pay raise we where going to get anyway a year or so more.

 

[swamt]

Looks like the king of scare tactics is back at it, or rather still at it...

 

[700UW]

Better get those AMFA cards signed:
 

IAM, TWU Alliance moves forward with American Airlines Single Carrier Filing

 
August 6, 2014   

In a move that will lead to joint contract negotiations for more than 30,000 members of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers (IAM) and Transport Workers Union (TWU), the two unions today jointly petitioned the National Mediation Board (NMB) asking it declare that post-merger American Airlines and US Airways are now operating as a single transportation system for employees in the Mechanic & Related, Fleet Service and Stores classifications.​

Today’s filing is a necessary precursor to an NMB election to certify the TWU-IAM Employee Association, an alliance between the IAM and TWU formed last year, as the collective bargaining representative for all employees in the affected classifications at the new American Airlines. There is no defined timeframe for the NMB to act on today’s petition.

IAM International President Tom Buffenbarger and TWU International President Harry Lombardo issued the following statement after the filing:

“Today begins the next step in achieving the airline industry’s best labor agreements at the world’s largest airline. American Airlines has entered into an era of super-profits and it’s now time for our combined 30,000 members at the airline to secure the industry’s premier contracts. Our members, by pooling resources and uniting in solidarity, present the most formidable labor alliance in the airline industry. Executives and shareholders are profiting handsomely, and this alliance will ensure our members are also rewarded for their hard work and sacrifice.”

Each pre-merger group will continue working under their existing collective bargaining agreements until joint agreements are negotiated and ratified.

Also announced with this filing is the first membership benefit, a Preferential Hiring Agreement between the two unions and American Airlines. Under its terms, furloughed members from either American or US Airways will be offered, but are not required to accept, open job opportunities at the other airline without loss of pay seniority.

More information about the IAM-TWU alliance and the Preferential Hiring Agreement is available at usaamerger.com and twu.org.​

 
 

 

[MetalMover]

 

Better get those AMFA cards signed:
 
IAM, TWU Alliance moves forward with American Airlines Single Carrier Filing

 
August 6, 2014   

In a move that will lead to joint contract negotiations for more than 30,000 members of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers (IAM) and Transport Workers Union (TWU), the two unions today jointly petitioned the National Mediation Board (NMB) asking it declare that post-merger American Airlines and US Airways are now operating as a single transportation system for employees in the Mechanic & Related, Fleet Service and Stores classifications.


Today’s filing is a necessary precursor to an NMB election to certify the TWU-IAM Employee Association, an alliance between the IAM and TWU formed last year, as the collective bargaining representative for all employees in the affected classifications at the new American Airlines. There is no defined timeframe for the NMB to act on today’s petition.

IAM International President Tom Buffenbarger and TWU International President Harry Lombardo issued the following statement after the filing:

“Today begins the next step in achieving the airline industry’s best labor agreements at the world’s largest airline. American Airlines has entered into an era of super-profits and it’s now time for our combined 30,000 members at the airline to secure the industry’s premier contracts. Our members, by pooling resources and uniting in solidarity, present the most formidable labor alliance in the airline industry. Executives and shareholders are profiting handsomely, and this alliance will ensure our members are also rewarded for their hard work and sacrifice.”

Each pre-merger group will continue working under their existing collective bargaining agreements until joint agreements are negotiated and ratified.

Also announced with this filing is the first membership benefit, a Preferential Hiring Agreement between the two unions and American Airlines. Under its terms, furloughed members from either American or US Airways will be offered, but are not required to accept, open job opportunities at the other airline without loss of pay seniority.

More information about the IAM-TWU alliance and the Preferential Hiring Agreement is available at usaamerger.com and twu.org.

 
 

 

NO TO THE ALLIANCE!

 

[1AA]

Ready for the vote. Send me the ballot. NO ALLIANCE!!

 

[TWU informer]

I bet they use your dues money for political influence to keep you from getting a ballot.

 

[1AA]

Heard the company wants to take our frozen aa pensions and turn them over to the IAM once the alliance is finalized. Just hearsay but it would not surprise me.

 

[Duke787]

You truly dont get it, you dont understand bankruptcy and business.

No contract, no rules, you are an employee at will, say bye bye to 50% of the maintenance workforce.

And with a CBA at least you can negotiate and have written workrules, pay, benefits etc...

You don't think if AA wanted to layoff more employees during bankruptcy they would have? Do you even know how many maint stations were closed before BK? And yes the TWU was on the property.

You are truly a know nothing fear monger !!!!!

 

[Overspeed]

AMFA is sunk now with the filing. Gotta get more cards from US IAM people. The same ones that wrote 8 write ins for AMFA in the IBT raid.

 

[700UW]

Heard the company wants to take our frozen aa pensions and turn them over to the IAM once the alliance is finalized. Just hearsay but it would not surprise me.

That is not permitted by law.

 

[Just the facts]

Heard the company wants to take our frozen aa pensions and turn them over to the IAM once the alliance is finalized. Just hearsay but it would not surprise me.

Per today's Gary Yingst letter, it's the union.

"We also have a joint agreement on pensions. The IAM has a National Pension Fund (IAMNPF). The IAM and TWU will propose to allow current TWU members into the IAMN0F. They further agree to make this a high priority when we harmonize our current agreements. "

Anybody know of an advantage for us by doing this?