The TWU Conssesions History

[swamt]

I think this is the last card drive for me as an organizer, I'm tired...not giving up though!

Understand brother, understand...

 

[swamt]

I agree..If this slap in the face isn't enough of a wake up call for these guys nothing will be.

Amen bro...

 

[Overspeed]

Why in the freakin world would any of you AA mechanics want to stay with the TWU when they have ALWAYS caved to the companies demands of conssesions evry single time they wanted them??? 1993= CONSSESIONS! 2003= CONSSESIONS! 2013= CONSSESIONS! Along with all these years of conssesions they also include lay-offs, rifs, relocations, families uprooted, mechs having to commute, reductions in overtime pay, sick pay, hol pay, day trades, if you guys even had them. What will it take for you guys to stop the company union from ripping everything you guys have left out of your hands??
This really is sad to watch. Take control of your union as well as you lives, vote in AMFA and watch each and every one of you say, damb, we should have done this DECADES ago. With your current union the company knows what they can get by with. The 50.25% yes votes proves this very fact. Unbelievable what you guys are willing to continue to go thru with the TWU. And some of you are willing to trade the TWU for the crooked and coruped teamsters. WOW!!

First of all, learn how to spell. It's "concessions" not consessions. Have you heard of spell check?

What concessions were there in 1993? That was the elimination of the B Scale.

Why do you leave out your own union. Your union's membership dropped from over 18,000 to now only 2,700. Where did all those members go? They gave up pay and their jobs. Awesome track record. Were those employees at AS in OAK uprooted? How about all those NW members at everywhere but MSP and DTW line? Where they uprooted? And don't forget UA airframe jobs at SFO. Those people weren't uprooted were they? And last but not least, you could even get a non-union company to agree at DL to go with your awesome union.

AMFA, where losing over 75% your overhaul jobs is actually winning.

 

[Overspeed]

Early openers thats a Joke
We negotiate for years on end and you think we are going to get early openers. Your a fool
you voted yes to be at the bottom of the Dung pile lower in pay and benefits than any other carrier. Wait until the 757 the MD-80 and the 767 make the direct approach into the desert to get moth balled how many OSM's will it take to do checks on a few 737's ? ?
We got early openers in four years because by then we will be just like UAL DL and US there will be no more overhaul but remember you voted for it. LOL

And whose fault was that? We had a deal back in May 2010 and the fearless and inept line presidents said there was more money on the table. They bad mouthed Arpey who at least was not willing to screw us in BK. They bad mouthed the TWU and in the end, we got Horton leading the charge to BK and we got screwed.

Over 500 737s and A320s is going to drive a whole hell of a lot of work. 65% of the direct labor and material spend will bring a lot of overhaul work in-house. More than UA/CO, US, WN, AS, and DL have in-house. Why are you happy about people losing jobs any way? The truth is that while jobs are getting outsourced, the TWU did better in BK than any other union.

 

[topDawg]

First of all, learn how to spell. It's "concessions" not consessions. Have you heard of spell check?

What concessions were there in 1993? That was the elimination of the B Scale.

Why do you leave out your own union. Your union's membership dropped from over 18,000 to now only 2,700. Where did all those members go? They gave up pay and their jobs. Awesome track record. Were those employees at AS in OAK uprooted? How about all those NW members at everywhere but MSP and DTW line? Where they uprooted? And don't forget UA airframe jobs at SFO. Those people weren't uprooted were they? And last but not least, you could even get a non-union company to agree at DL to go with your awesome union.

AMFA, where losing over 75% your overhaul jobs is actually winning.

fairly sure that was on the IAM....not the AMFA.

and its cute that you talk about the NW people. IIRC the TWU was helping NWA find replacement scabs....... (you know "job fairs" and such)

 

[Overspeed]

fairly sure that was on the IAM....not the AMFA.

and its cute that you talk about the NW people. IIRC the TWU was helping NWA find replacement scabs....... (you know "job fairs" and such)

When the TWU found out that firm was hiring for NW scabs they shut it down.

The IAM started the outsourcing with the IND maintenance base slow down. When AMFA came in they did not defend the IAM language and the rest of the AO work left. It was a combo screwing.

 

[Birdman]

First of all, learn how to spell. It's "concessions" not consessions.

This is golden. A TWU guy correcting an AMFA guy on how to spell concessions.

 

[Kev3188]

Spelling flames are the bastion of the weak; right up there with violators of Godwin's law.

You'd think by now most people would take into account the possibility of auto correct failures or "fat thumbing," since so many of us post using our phones...

 

[Birdman]

My point was that the TWU is intimately familiar with "concessions" and therefore keenly aware of it's spelling. Perhaps swamt was baiting the TWU zealots.

 

[Rogallo]

Yep, the TWU's been spelling 'concessions' correctly on every contract since, what, 1985?

Good job TWU. Time's up!!!

 

[Boomer]

The question is whether the AA employees that are TWU M&R should retain the TwU as their bargaining agent, not whether this or that prospect is the best choice. We know the history of failure that all unions have represented when directly attacked through both bankruptcy and coordinated attack. We also know that the TWU has never demonstrated anything other than hostility to the M&R at AA.
The wages and benefits of the TWU M&R have never risen to the same ranking among our peer groups at other airlines, while other contract groups on the same property remain at or above their respective peer groups at other airlines.
With the proposed realignment, the TWU will get another fifteen to twenty years of divide and conquer over the M&R with the diviision of title 1 and title 2 and splitting the M&R to title 3 AND including STORES into the M&R locals.
We need locals that can legally pursue the interests of the contract they represent without a DFR threat for failure to represent ALL of the membership.
I wish fleet and stores the best and can only hope that the TWU treats them better than M&R after we leave.

 

[swamt]

This is golden. A TWU guy correcting an AMFA guy on how to spell concessions.

Exsellent point! LOL. I had to do it...

 

[swamt]

Yep, the TWU's been spelling 'concessions' correctly on every contract since, what, 1985?

Good job TWU. Time's up!!!

AND he has to ask what consessions in 1993. It was all posted on this forum already.

 

[xUT]

When the TWU found out that firm was hiring for NW scabs they shut it down.

The IAM started the outsourcing with the IND maintenance base slow down. When AMFA came in they did not defend the IAM language and the rest of the AO work left. It was a combo screwing.

Nope, INDY was

shut down

under the IAM's watch (not slow down), it was already gone.
AMFA couldn't bring it back.
B) xUT

 

[Overspeed]

Nope, INDY was under the IAM's watch (not slow down), it was already gone.
AMFA couldn't bring it back.
B) xUT

Nope, INDY was under the IAM's watch (not slow down), it was already gone.
AMFA couldn't bring it back.
B) xUT

And the rest of AO at SFO gone was on AMFA's watch.