Teamsters "raiding" TWU?

[TWU informer]

How did you come to these conclusions?

Did you make all of it up?

Give us your version of how it works then?


Anything like this?
http://www.amfa-aa.com/docs/teamsters/ibt_no_union.pdf

 

[lineguy43]

How did you come to these conclusions?

Did you make all of it up?

Well I will tell you my little story of the IAm at NWA during my time there. We as mechanics always got the least amount on percentage when it came to raises and took the brunt of the concessions during paycuts. The ramp and agents always faired better then we did. I did not even make what a ramp guy made until I was in my 5th year. Say what you want about AMFA and how it turned out in the end for us but they did prove one little point. The minute we signed in our first AMFA agreement I got an instant 13 dollar an hour raise and my retirement more then doubled. The best the IAm could do and this was why they were kicked to the street in the best of times the retirement alone they offered 60 dollars per yr of service up for the paultry 40 we had. AMFA came back with 85. The IAm was the epitome of socialism at its finest. The pie example is spot on. They the company give the union the IAm in this case this much of the pie and they tell them you divy it up however you want. Why do you think dispatchers make so much for what is essentially a 6 week course? They are not watered down and forced to be in a group with people who do not hold airmen certificates and the responsiblity that comes with that certificate. That is why I am glad I work for a company that is non-union. As a mechanic as long as the class and craft is structured the way it is and the only unions out there are industrial unions like the Iam Ibt and Twu representing the majority of mechanics I will pass on ever being in a union again..I make more now than I ever have and don't have to pay union dues.

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

How did you come to these conclusions?

Did you make all of it up?

Anomaly

Contact AMFA National for a copy or get with your local AMFA organizer who ever that is I am sure he has one.

Read the AMFA constitution, any member can and has sat in on Negotiations with the companies they represent.
Ask any of the NWA guys if you know any, Being a card carrying assoc. member I sat in on AMFAs negotiations while it was held out in LAX yrs ago. Ask the GUYs at alaska or SWA if they can sit in? (non union officers) any union member.

Also in the constitution it shows what has to be done to remove any officer.

They represent aircraft mechanics, automotive, facilities, and title 1 cleaners. so NO I did NOT make this UP

AS far as the TWU being a weak union if they were a strong union and di thier job we would not be having this discussion would we? Since we at AA have set the bar so low we all should be wearing bags in shame that is mine....

 

[swamt]

I don't know why you guys are so hard up on getting AMFA. Didn't they bring down the United Mechanics. UAL Mechanics got rid of them. UAL seem to be doing well with teamsters. I don't get it..can someone explain why AMFA is better than Teamsters.

Before I read any further, I will say this. You have 16 postings. If you really did just come on here because you were surching for info., then by all means pls scroll thru the history as we have been discussing these issues for years. Happy reading.

On a second note; I actually believe you are a planted teamster or TWU trying (once again) to come on here and devide and try to spread more and more lies. Now, let's see if you can last longer than Anomally, Rice, as well as others who have suddenly become very quiet after proving them wrong continuiously on here. Good luck CactUSmx, your going to need it. If I am wrong then I will admit it when the time comes...

 

[swamt]

As a member working with AMFA anomaly is right on. One more thing I would add is we are very good at throwing ourselves under the bus. Do to this the company does what they want with us.

Oh WOW!! Look. Anomaly has a follower now. Bain, jump ship while you can. Anomaly has already been discredited for all his postings in the past, as well as proven wrong. Do you really want to back a liar?? You gotta love love this stuff.

 

[TWU informer]

Oh WOW!! Look. Anomaly has a follower now. Bain, jump ship while you can. Anomaly has already been discredited for all his postings in the past, as well as proven wrong. Do you really want to back a liar?? You gotta love love this stuff.

I thought they were the same person.

 

[lineguy43]

Anomaly

Contact AMFA National for a copy or get with your local AMFA organizer who ever that is I am sure he has one.

Read the AMFA constitution, any member can and has sat in on Negotiations with the companies they represent.
Ask any of the NWA guys if you know any, Being a card carrying assoc. member I sat in on AMFAs negotiations while it was held out in LAX yrs ago. Ask the GUYs at alaska or SWA if they can sit in? (non union officers) any union member.

Also in the constitution it shows what has to be done to remove any officer.

They represent aircraft mechanics, automotive, facilities, and title 1 cleaners. so NO I did NOT make this UP

AS far as the TWU being a weak union if they were a strong union and di thier job we would not be having this discussion would we? Since we at AA have set the bar so low we all should be wearing bags in shame that is mine....

LOL yeah the Twu should teach the limbo they have a very good track record of setting the bar lower then anyone else.

 

[swamt]

I thought they were the same person.

You may be correct sir.

 

[1AA]

As a member working with AMFA anomaly is right on. One more thing I would add is we are very good at throwing ourselves under the bus. Do to this the company does what they want with us.

And who are you and who do you work for?

 

[1AA]

How did you come to these conclusions?

Did you make all of it up?

Unlike you he researched his info and experienced the rest.

 

[Buck]

I am going to make a guess that swamt is an aircraft mechanic that works for Southwest Airlines???

 

[odie01]

I am going to make a guess that swamt is an aircraft mechanic that works for Southwest Airlines???

And if I haven't been following your posts for the last year, you would be a "Rocket Sergeon"!

 

[Buck]

And if I haven't been following your posts for the last year, you would be a "Rocket Sergeon"!

You are correct, but I chose A&P for my career.

 

[amtcraig1]

Wow nothing changes with you guys. Let me say again - amtcraig1 and brain is the same person, ok do we have that set for this week. And O Yea I should get this out of the way for TWUinformer I go by "no", REPEAT "NO" other names on here!!!! So for everyone’s info Southwest Airlines and American Airlines are two different airlines, their history is very different, and very important to know, they are run very differently.
So when someone from southwest tells you how it's going to be with amfa at AA please take it with a grain of salt. Hey AMFAinMIAMI here at Alaska we had other work groups with us to, GSE and Fleet Service. That was until they were walked off the property to never return..

 

[1AA]

Yea SWA and AA and Alaska are different because the industrial unions like the IAM, IBT and the TWU use the old tactic of divide and conquer. You see if all AMT's were under the TWU or the IAM then they would hog up all the dues. So they decided to create this animosity and share the dues money among three industrial catch all unions. If AMFA came in and represented all the airlines AMT's then AMFA would be hogging all the dues away from the useless industrial unions. We can not have this now can we? A class and craft union for AMT's is the only way to go. Screw the industrial elitists unions. They do nothing to advance my career as an AMT.
They suppress us and make us think that we need to give into concessions in order to save jobs. Whos jobs? Not ours, but we buy into this crap.

AMFA is the ONLY choice for AMT's. I do not care if it is SWA, Alaska, American, JetBlue, UAL/Continental, USAir or even non union Delta.