Teamsters "raiding" TWU?

[ThirdSeatHero]

TWU sellouts crossing over to the Teamsters.

Time to get rid of the TWU. Sign those AMFA cards. This is really frigging sad.

Bit of an ID problem guys....

The individual ID'd as David Bourne is actually Chris Moore from sCAL

The individual ID'd as Sydney Jimenez is actually Bob Fisher from sUAL

Both teamsters, yes.

Kudos to the stealth camera man

 

[1AA]

Video is back up and running with a few corrections I guess.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVQZvuj2S-w

 

[enough already]

WOW! There were 7 teamsters at the TUL gate this afternoon. Now that's what I call overwhelming support!?

 

[TWU informer]

WOW! There were 7 teamsters at the TUL gate this afternoon. Now that's what I call overwhelming support!?

And if you asked any of them a question pertaining to representational issues, they could not answer.

And everyone that I have asked if they were willing to be local union leaders for the teamsters, the answer is always NO.

 

[lineguy43]

Come on seriously little man? You are anonymous on the internet over 1733 miles away and you are still so afraid of me you have to start name calling? This kind of thing just shows the rest of us what you and lineguy43 (post #205) are really made of. More than anything else, this is what you can expect to get from the amfa leadership. Foul mouthed tuff talkers who do nothing when the company is around. Then it is all smiles and cooperation.

Tell the truth i luv aa, you were hiding behind the couch peeking out the curtains when those scary Teamsters came knocking at your door, weren't you?

That guy who pumps his chest and says "if only I had been home...." is that same little kitty to say "I would have kicked his butt if my friends weren't holding me back"

We all know guys like you, so don't go off the deep and and start sweating this post too. I'm just playin' with you.

If your serious about that trip....what the hell, I'm in. As a matter of fact, I'll go if you only pay for half.

Gee sorry I offended thee. Look man as much as I appear to be an AMFA cheerleader the fact is I only promote them because there is no other viable union for AMT's out there. The NMB rules regarding class and craft have only made it worse for us add to that the other unions out there watered us down even more with ramp and agents. We never in my almost 30 year career have had a decent say in our negotiations. AMFA was a dream we had and all we wanted was a union that addressed our wants and needs. But too many forces out there made sure that didn't happen. Becoming an AMT was a very poor choice in my life..If I had the knowledge 20 years ago that I have now I would have become a dispatcher. Dispatchers at UPS and now SWA are topping out at 147K they are both represented by the Twu (imagine that) but the Twu cannot get the AMT's anything but concessionary contracts year after year. Dispatchers do not have to take any other classifications into their union and they are pulling down over 70 dollars and hr at these two companies and even at the other majors they make considerably more than any AMT. Tell me what are the AMT's are pulling down again? Even at top paying UPS it is 51 an hr and no other airline AMT is even close to that..Dispatchers get all this for a certificate that takes 5 to 6 weeks to obtain add to that they have CASS jumpseat priviledges and can hitch a ride on any CASS approved airline (which is most) in the cockpit. The only time a mechanic gets in the cockpit is if he is on a road trip and thats only company business and only his own carrier. Again this is an example of a classification that is stand alone. Strength in numbers which is the Iam, Ibt, and Twu mantra hasn't done squat for me or any other AMT.

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

There were several teamsters out side of the parking lot here in Miami handing out T-shirts and lanyards for the badges. I did not see any one there at thier tent since it rained but I did here that several of miami's finest were there at some time during the day. CT and TW.

T.W. even talked to one of our QC inspectors about the IBT,

haven't seen any one wearing the Teamsters shirts.

 

[TWU informer]

Here in Tulsa, an AMT reports that a Teamsters organizer showed up at his door. And right along with him an AA AMT wearing a TWU t-shirt. So the Teamsters are raiding the TWU using the TWU supporters to assist. Strange

 

[lineguy43]

Here in Tulsa, an AMT reports that a Teamsters organizer showed up at his door. And right along with him an AA AMT wearing a TWU t-shirt. So the Teamsters are raiding the TWU using the TWU supporters to assist. Strange

I think it is a concerted effort on both the Twu and the Ibt to draw away support for AMFA.

 

[Rogallo]

So, are they showing up at line mechanics doors too?

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

So, are they showing up at line mechanics doors too?

Not in SAN theey aren't.

 

[Chuck Schalk]

I think it is a concerted effort on both the Twu and the Ibt to draw away support for AMFA.

what gave it away........the fact that the IBT told a mechanic at JFK that the IBT and the TWU have a great working relationship....... oh by the way they are raiding also?????
Too funny and the only transparencie the TWU ATD has shown!

 

[odie01]

They are still camped out at the Hilton Garden Inn next to AFW and have been for a couple of months. It must suck living out of a suitcase and eating out all the time, while being away from your family. I see a few Reamster T-shirts in Taesl, and the reason being, they were FREE ! Not to mention they had FREE food ! I have herd that they are starting to make house calls, and using a list of addresses that the twu atd has provided. Most of the Reamster supporters have signed AMFA cards and understand that they are the same Industrial catch all union as the twu.

Oh, and another thing, the IBT meeting they had here a few weeks ago,,,,,,they had a truck driver doing most of the presentation on why mechanics at AA need to go with the teamsters!!!! Go figure

 

[lineguy43]

God you guys are so f'kd. I am so glad I never went to work for AA. Even losing my 17 yrs at NWA I am still fairing better than you guys are. What the hell is it going to take to wake you guys up? Even us at NW we had MSP like you guys have TULE who would always throw the vote but after the Iam reamed us in 2000 in a great economy the guys in MSP finally woke up and said F'k this and kicked the Iam to the street. Ok AMFA made mistakes and NW management pulled out all the stops to break us but we did raise the bar that still exists with the better carriers. The industrial unions made sure the bar got pulled back down at most carriers. I am actually glad to be non-union at FX I am not lumped in with other classifications I don't pay union dues I make over 100k straight time and have good bennies. If I have to be an AMT I am so glad I am non-union. Funny thing is unions are supposed to make gains in pay and bennies..Not you clowns at the Iam, Twu and Ibt. Ibt at UPS not withstanding they are the only exception. AMFA even with its faults is the only option I would take if I had to be union again even after all I went through.

 

[1AA]

God you guys are so f'kd. I am so glad I never went to work for AA. Even losing my 17 yrs at NWA I am still fairing better than you guys are. What the hell is it going to take to wake you guys up? Even us at NW we had MSP like you guys have TULE who would always throw the vote but after the Iam reamed us in 2000 in a great economy the guys in MSP finally woke up and said F'k this and kicked the Iam to the street. Ok AMFA made mistakes and NW management pulled out all the stops to break us but we did raise the bar that still exists with the better carriers. The industrial unions made sure the bar got pulled back down at most carriers. I am actually glad to be non-union at FX I am not lumped in with other classifications I don't pay union dues I make over 100k straight time and have good bennies. If I have to be an AMT I am so glad I am non-union. Funny thing is unions are supposed to make gains in pay and bennies..Not you clowns at the Iam, Twu and Ibt. Ibt at UPS not withstanding they are the only exception. AMFA even with its faults is the only option I would take if I had to be union again even after all I went through.

Great post now we have to convince the koolaid drinkers that there is another world outside of the TWU.

 

[Chuck Schalk]

God you guys are so f'kd. I am so glad I never went to work for AA. Even losing my 17 yrs at NWA I am still fairing better than you guys are. What the hell is it going to take to wake you guys up? Even us at NW we had MSP like you guys have TULE who would always throw the vote but after the Iam reamed us in 2000 in a great economy the guys in MSP finally woke up and said F'k this and kicked the Iam to the street. Ok AMFA made mistakes and NW management pulled out all the stops to break us but we did raise the bar that still exists with the better carriers. The industrial unions made sure the bar got pulled back down at most carriers. I am actually glad to be non-union at FX I am not lumped in with other classifications I don't pay union dues I make over 100k straight time and have good bennies. If I have to be an AMT I am so glad I am non-union. Funny thing is unions are supposed to make gains in pay and bennies..Not you clowns at the Iam, Twu and Ibt. Ibt at UPS not withstanding they are the only exception. AMFA even with its faults is the only option I would take if I had to be union again even after all I went through.

HIgh speed steel
This is what I have been sayng all along. The TWU ATD has to raise the bar not lower it!
again I ask you, sell us on how anyone can sell the TWU to organize anyone!
start with the TWU ATD greatest accomplishments and go down.
start with #1.........