Teamsters filed at USAir for representation

[700UW]

I am not lying, you are, I even posted the language to for you, the IAMNPF will not allow the company to make contributions to the plan if they are not members of the IAM, I posted the contract language verbatim.

And the plan representatives are coming to CLT.

You have posted NOTHING.

Keep lying Tim, your nothing but a shyster.

And I guess you forgot when US stopped making contributions to the plan for the ramp and were threatened by the plan to be kicked out.

Convenient memory timmy?

 

[Tim Nelson]

That is incorrect 700. Is that lie how you plan on winning the campaign?
The company has to continue making contributions to the plan and the members will continue being participants to the plan unless the trustees of the plan decide to remove the members. I doubt the trustees remove the members but if they do then the transition will mean that the company will redirect the funds. Quit lying, you dont have to be an iam member to be in the plan. In fact, to keep the plan going, the iam embraced having 16,000 twu members as part of the iampf.

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

If the ibt wins, the day of the certification they IAMPF contributions cease from the company, and what you have accrued in stays as long as you have the five years vested. And you end up with no pension again and no 401k contribution and the ibt will never ever be able to get into the iamnpf.

Again you are a liar caught in the act. LOL Why do you try to get away with? I will or others catch you every time

IAM Pension Plans says and I quote

"You can participate in the National Pension Plan if you​

meet all three of the following conditions:

You are represented for the purpose of collective​

bargaining by a lodge chartered by the International​

Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers​

(IAM). The collective bargaining agreement may be​

with another union if accepted by the Trustees.

Your employer has agreed in writing to make​

contributions to the Plan on your behalf.

Your employer is accepted, in writing, as a contributing

employer by the Board of Trustees, and makes the​

required contributions.

You cannot participate in the National Pension Plan while:

You are self-employed.

You are a partner of a contributing employer.

http://mypension.iam.../IAM_SPD_11.pdf
The CBA says and I quote:

(A) Effective with the May 23, 2008 paycheck, the current
401K/Retirement Plans and Company match will be replaced with the IAM
National Pension Plan at the following rates:

$1.60 per hour effective May 5, 2008, and $2.00 per hour
effective January 3, 2011 for all Planners, Technical
Documentation Specialists, Mechanics and higher classifications
in accordance with plan rules.

http://www.iamdl142....ril 3, 2008.pdf

 

[700UW]

The plan and its trustees have stated they wont be members in the plan and everything is frozen, they will be in CLT on the 24th and 25th,

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

The plan and its trustees have stated they wont be members in the plan and everything is frozen, they will be in CLT on the 24th and 25th,

Prove it you proven liar

It means nothing if they stated that anyway. Of course they will say that when an election is on the line. duh

 

[700UW]

Read the CBA, its only for IAM members, there is nothing in there like timmy said about placing it into a 401k.

Hey Tim,

Still buying A-Cards with gift cards?

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

Read the CBA, its only for IAM members, there is nothing in there like timmy said about placing it into a 401k.

Hey Tim,

Still buying A-Cards with gift cards?

Prove it you proven liar

It means nothing if they stated that anyway. Of course they will say that when an election is on the line. duh

Read the plan you liar.

 

[Kev3188]

It has to be grassroots, with INTL support when they need the tech stuff. But best to leave the INTL out of it.

Completely agree. The top-down, everyone-knows-what's-best-for-you model is no longer relevant. The F/A's recognize this, and it is paying off for them.

Its my understanding if the IAM is dropped so goes the Pension and what you have put in stays there until 65.

I can tell you that at NW we had the IAMNPF in our CBA coming out of BK. before that we had our "normal" pension through the company. That one was frozen in BK.

After the merger with DL, we lost representation (and our CBA). Once that was settled. All future contributions immediately stopped, and what we had accrued at that point was frozen. We can tap into it earlier than 65, but with the same early retirement penalties as anyone else has...

We weren't in the IAMNPF that long, and therefore don't have that much accrued/vested. To be honest, I wish they'd just let us cash out. You'd think it'd be win-win (we get our $$$, they get us off the books), but what do I know?

I highly doubt the Teamsters can wiggle their way into the IAMPF. So I don't know where that came from. A defined benefit plan is definitely the way to go if your looking for less risk and the prospect of a guaranteed monthly figure rather than a gamble in the stock market.

If people are that concerned with risk, they can always put their 401k contributions into a cash fund...

 

[mike33]

You are represented for the purpose of collective​

bargaining by a lodge chartered by the International​

Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers​

(IAM). The collective bargaining agreement may be​

with another union if accepted by the Trustees.

So does that mean that the Trustees have the option of acceptance or denying ?

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

So does that mean that the Trustees have the option of acceptance or denying ?

So does that mean that the Trustees have the option of acceptance or denying ?

You really think a pension plan is going to oust paying members? Sure they will say it to get your vote. But after the vote over well there you go.....

 

[700UW]

US Airways will immediately stop paying.

I have heard the plan reps and the glrs and gcs state this over and over and the IAM has put it out in writing many times.

I guess you all fail to remember when US stopped paying into the plan for fleet and the plan was about to kick them out unless they paid.

And tim and usno your both liars, here is the proof!

http://usaamerger.co...eigh-Letter.pdf

 

[mike33]

You really think a pension plan is going to oust paying members? Sure they will say it to get your vote. But after the vote over well there you go.....

For the sake of politics, you are most likely correct. Maybe they would have you start a new plan at day 1 vestation if not voted in......

 

[737823]

Buffenbarger made the promotions and Ira is also a lawyer.

And Brickner is retiring, he was off of UA.

From the link:

International President Tom Buffenbarger announced Grand Lodge Representative Ira Levy will replace retiring Airline Coordinator Tom Brickner effective August 1, 2013.

You are probably right, Buffy is the one making the announcement, but is it still conceivable Sito appointed him? Regardless, where is the democracy? Shouldn't the leadership be elected rather than appointed?

Levy began his career in 1976 as a Ramp Serviceman for United Airlines and a member of Local Lodge 1322 in New York City. He then relocated to Denver and became a member of Local Lodge 1886 and was elected as Shop Steward, Ramp Committeeman and Committee Chairman. Levy was elected District Lodge 141 Assistant General Chairman in 1995 and was re-elected each cycle until he was appointed as a Grand Lodge Representative in 2007. Levy has extensive collective-bargaining and organizing experience and graduated with honors with a degree in accounting from Hofstra University and holds a Master’s Degree in Labor Studies from the University of Massachusetts.

Josh

 

[700UW]

Leadership is elected, the Airline Coordinator is not a constitutional officer, so therefore there is no election needed.

Sito is an elected officer.

Airline Coordinator is not an officer of the union.

 

[737823]

Still no mention that Ira is an attorney in the release.

Josh