Sign Up for a Chance to Show Your Support in Washington D.C. for the US Airways and American Merger!

[AP Tech]

Oh Boy...where do I sign up.....wanted to go and take "MY" vacation to do so but our max off of 4 people per shift was already reached so was denied :angry2: .....then I wanted to VTO 10 min to catch a flight to fly down...also denied :angry2: due to OT...oh well maybe next time!!!!

 

[USA320Pilot]

700UW,

What I find interesting is that instead of debating the issues or the facts you shoot the messenger or personally attack people. The only person who looks bad or immature is you. As I said you're easier to make look bad or play than playing a $2 fiddle.

Let me ask you a few questions since you want to hijack this thread.

1. Is it better to serve other people and help the company or be self serving and focus on your self?

2. Does Doug Parker have more or less motivation to help certain employees or an employee group if these employees take an extra step to help all of US Airways' stakeholders interested in the business enterprise's success?

3. If an employee group does not want to support US Airways merging with AA should Doug give in to extortion or use management's RLA advantage to get a union's attention and delay contract improvements?

If a union or union members take steps that cause their members to wait longer for contract improvements that's certainly their choice, which I respect. But, let's not forget I believe a union that fights with management under current circumstances will be ignored, which could extend the time union members obtain pay raises that will boost the profit sharing payment to other employee groups.

There is nobody who wants to see US Airways' many fine IAM members see improved pay and benefits, but the so-called "tough guy" approach and extortion will never work because the RLA stacks the deck in management's favor, but it's a union's choice.

 

[freedom]

I don't have the best memory but for those of you planning to use amplified sound aka a megaphone I do believe that there is a forty dollar permit fee that has to be paid in DC so make sure you check on that before you go so that your prepared .

 

[robbedagain]

freedumm go ahead and go and pay for all those who go with you.. most of us wont go til we get contracts first.. period

usa320 first of all all of you pilots you included as well as the flight attendants are the ones who will truly make out and the west crews will make out a hell of a lot better too if its done right... why is it ok for mgmt to go behind labors backs to make back room door buster deals with another airline and that carrier's unions when they cannot even settle or they fail to negogiate in good faith with their own? whats fishy about that... ill tell ya that they had hoped that by getting aa employees on board they hoped they get the twu to represent the mr and fleet guess what wont happen wanna use extortion lets do that... its extortion that mgmt and that pos allen hemmoraging hemmingway and a holes want to continue to take take take from the iam i dont know how much lower they want but if they had an opportunity to work with just 2 rampers they would in a heart beat for like what the chinese pay their hard laborers and if they could they pay the maintaince folks 10 bucks to fix a plane... but pilots n crews are not the ones who are outside in the mid of winter in the snow n ice fixing or deicing or loadin or unloading planes crews are nice n warm inside while we are outside etc.. so yes the iam has valid reason to not support the merger..... contracts first merger later... n therefore til they negogiate in good faith the hell with the merger this outfit is making money over money on our backs and couple it with fees them donkeys can go kiss arse

 

[snapthis]

I never tried pot I guess it was because I was already flying when I was fifteen. However now that I'm retired........maybe legalization might not be a bad thing!

Bob

Bob, in the mid-70's they called it the Wildwood Flower.
Maybe you can make a little extra cash if it is legalized.

You might remember this.



All the best, in your retirement on the farm.

 

[P. REZ]

700UW,

What I find interesting is that instead of debating the issues or the facts you shoot the messenger or personally attack people. The only person who looks bad or immature is you. As I said you're easier to make look bad or play than playing a $2 fiddle.

Let me ask you a few questions since you want to hijack this thread.

1. Is it better to serve other people and help the company or be self serving and focus on your self?

2. Does Doug Parker have more or less motivation to help certain employees or an employee group if these employees take an extra step to help all of US Airways' stakeholders interested in the business enterprise's success?

3. If an employee group does not want to support US Airways merging with AA should Doug give in to extortion or use management's RLA advantage to get a union's attention and delay contract improvements?

If a union or union members take steps that cause their members to wait longer for contract improvements that's certainly their choice, which I respect. But, let's not forget I believe a union that fights with management under current circumstances will be ignored, which could extend the time union members obtain pay raises that will boost the profit sharing payment to other employee groups.

There is nobody who wants to see US Airways' many fine IAM members see improved pay and benefits, but the so-called "tough guy" approach and extortion will never work because the RLA stacks the deck in management's favor, but it's a union's choice.

Tough guy? No, we are growing a set and saying no contract, no thanks. The Company is saying go eff yourselves to fleet and we should come out and show our love for a merger that may or may not benefit us? I can see it now, Hey everybody, I hear DP has told people that if we come and help we will get industry leading contracts. Three months later, what do you mean there isn't any money, you just reported a $1 billion dollar profit, DOOOOOOHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[767one]

Bob, in the mid-70's they called it the Wildwood Flower.
Maybe you can make a little extra cash if it is legalized.

You might remember this.



All the best, in your retirement on the farm.

Yep,

I remember that song. Pretty funny.

Bob

 

[Real tired]

700UW,

What I find interesting is that instead of debating the issues or the facts you shoot the messenger or personally attack people. The only person who looks bad or immature is you. As I said you're easier to make look bad or play than playing a $2 fiddle.

Let me ask you a few questions since you want to hijack this thread.

1. Is it better to serve other people and help the company or be self serving and focus on your self?

2. Does Doug Parker have more or less motivation to help certain employees or an employee group if these employees take an extra step to help all of US Airways' stakeholders interested in the business enterprise's success?

3. If an employee group does not want to support US Airways merging with AA should Doug give in to extortion or use management's RLA advantage to get a union's attention and delay contract improvements?

If a union or union members take steps that cause their members to wait longer for contract improvements that's certainly their choice, which I respect. But, let's not forget I believe a union that fights with management under current circumstances will be ignored, which could extend the time union members obtain pay raises that will boost the profit sharing payment to other employee groups.

There is nobody who wants to see US Airways' many fine IAM members see improved pay and benefits, but the so-called "tough guy" approach and extortion will never work because the RLA stacks the deck in management's favor, but it's a union's choice.

After I read this post, I felt so dirty that I had to take a bath in bleach.

 

[767one]

After I read this post, I felt so dirty that I had to take a bath in bleach.

Real tired,

The sad thing is that after many years of giving up and giving in he still persists. Sad to say he is not the only one who feels this way....he is just one of the more vocal. He can't see that not rolling over is not the same as trying to destroy the company. Thinking like his is why (as a group) we lost our retirements and many other things that those before us worked so hard to get. In a nutshell we gave up our careers to save our jobs.

All the best,

Bob

 

[700UW]

700UW,

What I find interesting is that instead of debating the issues or the facts you shoot the messenger or personally attack people. The only person who looks bad or immature is you. As I said you're easier to make look bad or play than playing a $2 fiddle.

Let me ask you a few questions since you want to hijack this thread.

First of all I didnt hijack this thread, second if you dont like what I post dont read it or use the ignore feature. My thoughts along with others are valid points, this is a message board, if you dont like the opposing view, go somewhere else.

1. Is it better to serve other people and help the company or be self serving and focus on your self?

Myself and others arent here to help the company, we are here to do our jobs, which the employees have as the company is making record profits, but yet they are not returning it to the employees. Being a union rep is not self-serving, (you probably dont get that since everytime you ran for office you LOST!). I sacrificed my family time, my free time and was on the road a lot to represent my members, even while on vacation, can you say the same?

2. Does Doug Parker have more or less motivation to help certain employees or an employee group if these employees take an extra step to help all of US Airways' stakeholders interested in the business enterprise's success?

Doug is all about himself, and his ego, he needs to read Kellerher and Beuthene's books on how treating employees with respect and puts them first and it ensures a profitable company as the employees are taken care of. It is total disrespect to negotiate with unions and employees who dont even work at US, while its been over two years for all three IAM groups, over eight years for the AFA to reach an agreement and over eight years with the pilots and nothing is done, how does it feel to see your fellow employees get raises, and you are still working under a Chapter 11 CBA which is over eight years old?

3. If an employee group does not want to support US Airways merging with AA should Doug give in to extortion or use management's RLA advantage to get a union's attention and delay contract improvements?

First of all why should any unionized group support US and AA when US won t support or respect its own employees? The IAM or any union is not extorting US, show the board how they are? Oh dont worry you will see some delays in the very near future.

So learn to grow a set.

 

[swamt]

700UW,

What I find interesting is that instead of debating the issues or the facts you shoot the messenger or personally attack people. The only person who looks bad or immature is you. As I said you're easier to make look bad or play than playing a $2 fiddle.

He does the same thing in the mechanics threads. And he's been proven wrong many times. Even after the NMB both verbally and in writing has said the exact opposite of what he claims. He has lost his credibility with almost all out here. There is one guy that chimes in every now and then to support him. Don't waste your time with him, he is no longer in the industry and has some kind of connection from a long time friend that he says is his mentor. I went round and round with this guy for almost a complete month because I got sick and tired of his lies and un-factual postings of how things will be handled or NOT handled by the NMB. Took him well over 2 weeks to admit that I was correct about the ballots, when usually this man responds at a heat beat when asked or told something. Then when you do prove him wrong for all out here to see he simply post "I am done with is" as if he's getting frustrated with no-one believing him anymore. Maybe he will get a clue with others posting the same about him. He's just a whipping boy for the IAM trying to keep the membership at US with the IAM. Little does he know that he is pushing them away from the IAM with all his antics, just like a lot of the teamster posters always do. I know Off topic, but what you posted needed to said by others. I just wanted to chime in and agree with you as, a lot of others do in other threads. You are right on with your observations...

 

[UPNAWAY]

What is up with Unions and Respect? More brainwashing and sloganeering IMHO.
I want a pay check from my employeer, not respect whatever that means.

 

[700UW]

You are truly clueless, the one who is brainwashed is you.

 

[ChockJockey]

I want a pay check from my employeer, not respect whatever that means.

You don't know what respect is? I guess I'm not surprised.

 

[robbedagain]

respect... i always love rodney dangerfield line no respect... that same can be applied at usairways those donkeys running usairways has absolutely no respect for their own employees... give a sharp contrast to southwest airlines.. bottom line no respect from the donkeys at us they go out n make back room door buster deals to aa and their unions yet they dont want to settle with us... so to usa320 i hope you understand why you pilots n fas will be the ones to make out the most the rest of us well might be prepping the stalls for the donkeys!