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On 5/4/2003 941 AM firstamendment wrote:
trvir64,
Do you want to know what is stupid?
A city that doesn''t seem to get it when it comes to the changing airline industry. You speak of the new PIT airport built 12 years ago. By industry standards 12 years is a long time. For your information, I remember when CLT was a nothing airport and it surpassed PIT in it''s efficiency. Then PIT got a new airport which was waaaaaaaayyyyyy overdue and sat back with aging facilities on the exterior. Your city is worst than the people you are blaming. Talk of threatening. "We want to speak with one voice" In otherwords, if you don''t like it, pull out.
The other U cities have been willing to understand the CURRENT needs of the industry and have expanded accordingly. Gotten out of your tiny part of the world lately to see that? They aren''t living in 12 years ago. They have gone forward.
You seem to be so angry at U but you respond like a typical American airline passenger....whinning, complaining and entitled to everything and wanting to pay nothing. If your city wants to keep U, then pony up. If not, buh bye. U does not need PIT.
You know this is my opinion and frankly I could care less what anyone thinks. I hope we leave PIT. They are not and have not been aggressive in it''s support of U (oh I forgot that new terminal). We do not need 2 hubs in PA. As long as PHL is a moneymaker it is here to stay.
I resent those that are always crying SOUTHWEST. Fine. Welcome Southwest. They are not the savior. Check out DOT stats and you WILL discover our operation to be far better. Did SWA come up first in the WSU survey that has become a true guide to airline service? NO!! Who was first? Yep, US Airways. So go for it ''burghers. Lets'' see how many folks come rushing to your new convention center when all you have to offer is service to all the various hub cities.
Many have said (again..me me me) the fares out of PIT would be lower if U was out and others came in. Be careful what you ask for. Those cheap tickets you think SWA has across the board disappear when they are the only game in town, so your nonstop issue is void.
US Airways needs to spresd out the flying. Those aircraft left over from a PIT closing could be used for more point to point service or for more expansion into Central and northern South America. They could also be used to TRUELY build our eastcoast presence by offering our large customers transcons from BOS and NYC. Yes, it is competitive but we DO have the customer base.
Looked at the ATTACHE'' mag lately? Lots of codeshare flights out of DEN, who will also need to lower their cost. UAL needs to cut back a hub. We need to spread out the flying. We are attached to this alliance and I feel both companies will make this so close to a merged operation it will seem we are one. If U were to close PIT, take over DEN with her extra aircraft and UAL slims down IAD to transcon and international, the U/UAL alliance would be successful because the flying of both airlines would make more sense. And, for those always looking for the two to someday merge, the plan would be in play.
For the PIT faithful, don''t take this so personally. It''s a business. Maybe you could take part of that beautiful 12 year old terminal and turn it into housing. You could make beautiful apts located steps from the mall and the proceeds can pay for the 12 year old airport and the new stadiums in your cashstrapped city.
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What you are failing to understand is that the people who really count, the ones with the real power are right here in PA working for PA and its cities....and unless the system changes like tomorrow, PA and its cities still hold the cards cash strapped or otherwise. Your opinions are looked at by people on these boards, the opinions of PA and its cities are heard loudly in Washington where it really counts.
LOVE----Cav
On 5/4/2003 941 AM firstamendment wrote:
trvir64,
Do you want to know what is stupid?
A city that doesn''t seem to get it when it comes to the changing airline industry. You speak of the new PIT airport built 12 years ago. By industry standards 12 years is a long time. For your information, I remember when CLT was a nothing airport and it surpassed PIT in it''s efficiency. Then PIT got a new airport which was waaaaaaaayyyyyy overdue and sat back with aging facilities on the exterior. Your city is worst than the people you are blaming. Talk of threatening. "We want to speak with one voice" In otherwords, if you don''t like it, pull out.
The other U cities have been willing to understand the CURRENT needs of the industry and have expanded accordingly. Gotten out of your tiny part of the world lately to see that? They aren''t living in 12 years ago. They have gone forward.
You seem to be so angry at U but you respond like a typical American airline passenger....whinning, complaining and entitled to everything and wanting to pay nothing. If your city wants to keep U, then pony up. If not, buh bye. U does not need PIT.
You know this is my opinion and frankly I could care less what anyone thinks. I hope we leave PIT. They are not and have not been aggressive in it''s support of U (oh I forgot that new terminal). We do not need 2 hubs in PA. As long as PHL is a moneymaker it is here to stay.
I resent those that are always crying SOUTHWEST. Fine. Welcome Southwest. They are not the savior. Check out DOT stats and you WILL discover our operation to be far better. Did SWA come up first in the WSU survey that has become a true guide to airline service? NO!! Who was first? Yep, US Airways. So go for it ''burghers. Lets'' see how many folks come rushing to your new convention center when all you have to offer is service to all the various hub cities.
Many have said (again..me me me) the fares out of PIT would be lower if U was out and others came in. Be careful what you ask for. Those cheap tickets you think SWA has across the board disappear when they are the only game in town, so your nonstop issue is void.
US Airways needs to spresd out the flying. Those aircraft left over from a PIT closing could be used for more point to point service or for more expansion into Central and northern South America. They could also be used to TRUELY build our eastcoast presence by offering our large customers transcons from BOS and NYC. Yes, it is competitive but we DO have the customer base.
Looked at the ATTACHE'' mag lately? Lots of codeshare flights out of DEN, who will also need to lower their cost. UAL needs to cut back a hub. We need to spread out the flying. We are attached to this alliance and I feel both companies will make this so close to a merged operation it will seem we are one. If U were to close PIT, take over DEN with her extra aircraft and UAL slims down IAD to transcon and international, the U/UAL alliance would be successful because the flying of both airlines would make more sense. And, for those always looking for the two to someday merge, the plan would be in play.
For the PIT faithful, don''t take this so personally. It''s a business. Maybe you could take part of that beautiful 12 year old terminal and turn it into housing. You could make beautiful apts located steps from the mall and the proceeds can pay for the 12 year old airport and the new stadiums in your cashstrapped city.
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What you are failing to understand is that the people who really count, the ones with the real power are right here in PA working for PA and its cities....and unless the system changes like tomorrow, PA and its cities still hold the cards cash strapped or otherwise. Your opinions are looked at by people on these boards, the opinions of PA and its cities are heard loudly in Washington where it really counts.
LOVE----Cav