Saudi king warns jihadists could attack US, Europe within months

777 fixer said:
 
And who ordered troops into Iraq in 2003?  That would be GWB.  The mess there is on his head.  Just like how Vietnam was on LBJ head.
 
Who ordered Operation Desert Fox in 1998 and the issue was WMD's before Bush.
 
delldude said:
 
Who ordered Operation Desert Fox in 1998 and the issue was WMD's before Bush.
That's totally and completely irrelevant.  Bill Clinton did not order the invasion of Iraq.  That would be George Bush.  You cannot spin your way around that fact.
 
Except that 9/11 occurred. That was due to Clinton's inaction. It wasn't planned on the day Bush was elected president. During Clinton many hardcore terrorists were able to perfect the towers' first bombing that occurred under his watch.
 
If you know the history as portrayed in PBS's Frontline, the person who had actually warned about an attack in the US about to occur, was silenced by Freeh and Reno.
 
delldude said:
 
Tango's have been caught before crossing...what's your point?
 
My point.  It's a whole lot easier to cross the Canadian border than it is the Mexican and it would be impossible to have both borders 100% covered.
 
I tend to disagree. Canadian borders are tighter and there is a higher cooperation between the US and Canadian government. The Mexican border has miles of HOLES, for lack of a better word.

And Mexico doesn't give a rat's @$$ about their citizens crossing into the US,

Asinine point there!
 
signals said:
I tend to disagree. Canadian borders are tighter and there is a higher cooperation between the US and Canadian government. The Mexican border has miles of HOLES, for lack of a better word.

And Mexico doesn't give a rat's @$$ about their citizens crossing into the US,

Asinine point there!
 
You've never been to the US-Canada border have you?  For starters it's the longest undefended international border in the world.  And compared to the US-Mexico border security measures are light.  There are no miles and miles of fence, drones flying overhead, Border Patrol helicopters with FLIR flying around, or agents in SUV or ATV driving around.  I'm rather sure this fact is not lost on certain groups.  
 
So it;s not an asinine point.  It's a legitimate one.
 
signals said:
I tend to disagree. Canadian borders are tighter and there is a higher cooperation between the US and Canadian government.
You are partially correct. Cooperation exists, but to say the border is tighter than the US-Mexico border is incorrect.

"Next, he turns to the U.S-Canada divide, mentioning the 1999 case of Ahmed Ressam who would have become "the millennium bomber," if not for an astute US Customs agent in Washington state. Here, as Tussing sees it, is the crux of the problem: "We found over time that he was able to do what he was to do because of the comparatively liberal immigration and asylum laws that exist today in Canada, which allowed him a safe haven. Which allowed him a planning area. Which allowed him an opportunity to build bombs. Which allowed him an opportunity to arrange his logistics." He pauses. "This is not to say that Canada's laws are wrong, but they are different from ours."

A Government Accountablity Office report, he adds, claims that "the risk of terrorist activity is high along the northern border." Of that 4,000-mile border between the two countries, he adds, "only 32 of those miles are categorized as what we say are acceptable levels of control."

As what Tussing calls the "coup de grâce" to his argument for reinforcements of every sort along that border, he quotes Alan Bersin, former director of Customs and Border Protection: "In terms of the terrorist threat, it's more commonly accepted that the most significant threat comes from the north," not the south."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/02/US-canada-border-constitution-free-zone
 
Glenn Quagmire said:
You are partially correct. Cooperation exists, but to say the border is tighter than the US-Mexico border is incorrect.

"Next, he turns to the U.S-Canada divide, mentioning the 1999 case of Ahmed Ressam who would have become "the millennium bomber," if not for an astute US Customs agent in Washington state. Here, as Tussing sees it, is the crux of the problem: "We found over time that he was able to do what he was to do because of the comparatively liberal immigration and asylum laws that exist today in Canada, which allowed him a safe haven. Which allowed him a planning area. Which allowed him an opportunity to build bombs. Which allowed him an opportunity to arrange his logistics." He pauses. "This is not to say that Canada's laws are wrong, but they are different from ours."

A Government Accountablity Office report, he adds, claims that "the risk of terrorist activity is high along the northern border." Of that 4,000-mile border between the two countries, he adds, "only 32 of those miles are categorized as what we say are acceptable levels of control."

As what Tussing calls the "coup de grâce" to his argument for reinforcements of every sort along that border, he quotes Alan Bersin, former director of Customs and Border Protection: "In terms of the terrorist threat, it's more commonly accepted that the most significant threat comes from the north," not the south."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/02/US-canada-border-constitution-free-zone
 
Your millennium bomber was caught at a standard US Customs check point and not repelling down some mountainside in British Columbia.
 
There is a formidable Muslim population in Canada.....know why?
 
Free shiit.
 
Are they smuggling nukes across uninhabited regions ?
 
777 fixer said:
That's totally and completely irrelevant.  Bill Clinton did not order the invasion of Iraq.  That would be George Bush.  You cannot spin your way around that fact.
 
                                          
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10/31/98 Clinton signs the Iraq Liberation Act. Regime change becomes official US policy
 
                                      
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777 fixer said:
You've never been to the US-Canada border have you?  For starters it's the longest undefended international border in the world.  And compared to the US-Mexico border security measures are light.  There are no miles and miles of fence, drones flying overhead, Border Patrol helicopters with FLIR flying around, or agents in SUV or ATV driving around.  I'm rather sure this fact is not lost on certain groups.  
 
So it;s not an asinine point.  It's a legitimate one.
Yeah, I live in Upstate NY and have never been to Canada...Bwhahaha! I know that just at the 1000 Islands entry, many a drug smuggler has been caught. The biggest hole is on the St. Regis reservation, but they are tightening it down.

Make no mistake in what I say, if the terrorists are determined, as they are, both borders are accessible, but I think it is a bit tougher on the north.
 
Glenn Quagmire said:
You are partially correct. Cooperation exists, but to say the border is tighter than the US-Mexico border is incorrect.

"Next, he turns to the U.S-Canada divide, mentioning the 1999 case of Ahmed Ressam who would have become "the millennium bomber," if not for an astute US Customs agent in Washington state. Here, as Tussing sees it, is the crux of the problem: "We found over time that he was able to do what he was to do because of the comparatively liberal immigration and asylum laws that exist today in Canada, which allowed him a safe haven. Which allowed him a planning area. Which allowed him an opportunity to build bombs. Which allowed him an opportunity to arrange his logistics." He pauses. "This is not to say that Canada's laws are wrong, but they are different from ours."

A Government Accountablity Office report, he adds, claims that "the risk of terrorist activity is high along the northern border." Of that 4,000-mile border between the two countries, he adds, "only 32 of those miles are categorized as what we say are acceptable levels of control."

As what Tussing calls the "coup de grâce" to his argument for reinforcements of every sort along that border, he quotes Alan Bersin, former director of Customs and Border Protection: "In terms of the terrorist threat, it's more commonly accepted that the most significant threat comes from the north," not the south."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/02/US-canada-border-constitution-free-zone
Point taken. Still the millennium bomber was stopped even by luck.
 

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