RECALL of Council 70 President! Merged Topics

[PITbull]

What was the basis for Phoenix to ask you to stop gathering signatures in a publiclly-owned airport? They could likely enforce a prohibitation in it's employee-only areas such as crew sign-in areas and employee lounges, but I doubt they have any ability to restrict you in public areas.

Simple. Management controls the LECP, therefore, they do not want her recalled. Neither does the MECP. Those leaders who pose no threat to management... is who management loves to have in union office.

BTW, any officer that is elected who is off full time and their budget can support it, will be paid 105 flight pay loss and are designated 105 since 2005, that will be the pay. Same with a reserve who had designated themselves 105 back in 2005. I understand the flex schedule for reserves, but its the same for a line holder who gets elected. I don't think folks should be upset over reserves getting paid 105 flight pay loss, as long as they are in the officer every day mon-fri doing strictly union business. And on Sat and Sun, if they can find an ETB trip that flies a 2 day and meet the buffers, then so be it.

PHL members should not restrict who they vote for merely on the fact that a reserve who may run for office may not fly in order to do union work, or receive 105 flight pay loss for his/her time in the office. The issue is to ensure that those you vote for are honorable people, with the intent to represent the members fairly and intelligently and that they are on the "up and up". When casting a vote for those officers who are running make every attempt to find out their history, their education, skill, ability to communicate and that their priority is to improve the work life of the profession, serve and protect the members and guard the contract language from violations. And above all, that you cast your vote for the individual who will represent the base interest on the MEC level and BOD level.

 

[PITbull]

Once again TG read the CODE OF BUSINESS CONDUCT AND ETHICS handbook that is dated November 30, 2005. You are in violation per this handbook. Let's see if the company will respond to this handbook like they said they would. So TG read up on this!!!!

If she is not in uniform, the code of conduct and ethics book does not apply at the airport public areas.

 

[Lovethesun]

If she is not in uniform, the code of conduct and ethics book does not apply at the airport public areas.

Pitbull....the code of conduct and ethics has nothing to do with one just being in uniform. As an employee of USAirways Group, you have an obligation at all times to promote the Company's interest. The Company's long-established policy requires that you avoid any situation that does or may involve a conflict, or appearance of conflict, between your personal interests and the interests of the Company. Further, you have a responsibility to report any behavior that you believe to be unethical or illegal. Also, there are several instances in which this Code refers to "appearances," such as the appearance of a conflict of interest. Even if conduct does not create an actual conflict, if it is perceived to have created an actual conflict, the amount of damage inflicted on the reputation of the Company may be the same as if the conflict had been an actual one. Therefore, this Code in many cases prohibits not just conduct that would create an actual code violation, but also conduct that would appear to create such a violation. So as a food for thought whether an activity or situation is in conflict with our corporate code of conduct the question that they suggest you ask yourself is What would other employees, customers and the general public think about my actions?

No where does it say only while in uniform the code of conduct rules apply.

BTW, any officer that is elected who is off full time and their budget can support it, will be paid 105 flight pay loss and are designated 105 since 2005, that will be the pay. Same with a reserve who had designated themselves 105 back in 2005. I understand the flex schedule for reserves, but its the same for a line holder who gets elected. I don't think folks should be upset over reserves getting paid 105 flight pay loss, as long as they are in the officer every day mon-fri doing strictly union business. And on Sat and Sun, if they can find an ETB trip that flies a 2 day and meet the buffers, then so be it.

PHL members should not restrict who they vote for merely on the fact that a reserve who may run for office may not fly in order to do union work, or receive 105 flight pay loss for his/her time in the office. The issue is to ensure that those you vote for are honorable people, with the intent to represent the members fairly and intelligently and that they are on the "up and up". When casting a vote for those officers who are running make every attempt to find out their history, their education, skill, ability to communicate and that their priority is to improve the work life of the profession, serve and protect the members and guard the contract language from violations. And above all, that you cast your vote for the individual who will represent the base interest on the MEC level and BOD level.

As far as an elected officer receiving 105 hours do not see where that is a problem. But the word is elected!! The reserve chair was going out and not flying a 2 day as you referenced, but 3 day international trips. Also he is not an elected representative. And he was working his office schedule around his ETB trips which no other reserve nor flight attendant is able to do. So here is the ethics part.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Once again TG read the CODE OF BUSINESS CONDUCT AND ETHICS handbook that is dated November 30, 2005. You are in violation per this handbook. Let's see if the company will respond to this handbook like they said they would. So TG read up on this!!!!

The Code of Business Conduct and Ethics is widely ignored by the company. Employees posting on this board, including upper management, is an excellent example.

 

[700UW]

Every CBA contains that you cannot be disciplined for doing union work, as I see it she is doing union work, so therefore it does not apply.

 

[Dorf]

As an employee of USAirways Group, you have an obligation at all times to promote the Company's interest. The Company's long-established policy requires that you avoid any situation that does or may involve a conflict, or appearance of conflict, between your personal interests and the interests of the Company.

This code is totally ignored by upper management in the way they conduct themselves! Remember, they are employees also. They should lead by example or quit with the BS! That "code of conduct" book went into the fireplace the day it was received, if management doesn't have to follow it, then neither should anyone else.
On another note, if she is a union official conducting union business in a public domain...there is nothing the company can/should do about it.

 

[Lovethesun]

This code is totally ignored by upper management in the way they conduct themselves! Remember, they are employees also. They should lead by example or quit with the BS! That "code of conduct" book went into the fireplace the day it was received, if management doesn't have to follow it, then neither should anyone else.
On another note, if she is a union official conducting union business in a public domain...there is nothing the company can/should do about it.

When there is petitioning done on airport property a permit must be obtained. Does she have one? I seriously doubt it. So TG you need to go and get one. I bet management can do as they please....example fire an employee for doing what she is doing. Then who will she have to represent her? NO ONE!

 

[Dorf]

When there is petitioning done on airport property a permit must be obtained.

Having dealt with the PHL airport on this type of thing in the past.....Picketing needs a permit....talking to other employees in the food court and having them sign a petition does not. If she has a table set up with signs in a hallway...then she would need a permit..otherwise not.

I bet management can do as they please....example fire an employee for doing what she is doing. Then who will she have to represent her? NO ONE!

Management can try and fire her, but making it stick would be another thing entirely. The union will defend a union rep(and probably pay them during the grievance procedure)and most likely get her job back. The company doesn't represent union reps...the union does.

 

[PITbull]

When there is petitioning done on airport property a permit must be obtained. Does she have one? I seriously doubt it. So TG you need to go and get one. I bet management can do as they please....example fire an employee for doing what she is doing. Then who will she have to represent her? NO ONE!

You are not correct in your blanket statement. That would mean that when you are off duty out with your friends and those in an establishement who know you work for an airline, that if you act drunk or give the apprearance of being drunk and perhpas others (subjectively) impose their judgement on you and report it to their surpervisor, you could be terminated???

One example comes to mind that captured much media attention publically for 5 years, and that many times, often times, deliberately calculating, purposely, and with forethought, did not present USAirways mangament at USAirways in the best light on behalf of her members and was told by management, senior execs, CEO repeatedly to stop, ... yup, the former AFA LECP of PIT/MECP.

And with an attitude of blatant defiance...

 

[ClueByFour]

No where does it say only while in uniform the code of conduct rules apply.

Take it from somebody who has been union and now at will--if you are not in uniform and not being compensated for work and/or taking advantage of a benefit (eg, being on the aircraft non-revving), you cannot be touched for what you do. Unless there are standards of conduct specifically outlined in the CBA. Or, in this case, if someone is doing union work--it's a carte blanche to flip the company the proverbial bird.

 

[Career Reserve]

Just got a directive that I am NOT to have petitions signed at the airport this all came from Phoenix.

Doesn't this just Speak Volumes!!!
Is it just me or is everyone else taking note of this?
It should make the Philly f/a's more determined than ever to get those signatures on file.

 

[HP_JACK]

Stop collecting signatures in PHL cause Tempe said so? Bologna! Hot dogs! Whatever. When we had a recall of our MEC Pres last year here in the PHX base. Petioners were all over the airport. Security checkpoints, elevators, bus stops and my favorite the elevator up to check in. Management knew and never said a word.

Did LA call tempe? or MF? hhhmmmm

Keep getting those signatures!

 

[dcflyguy]

Stop collecting signatures in PHL cause Tempe said so? Bologna! Hot dogs! Whatever. When we had a recall of our MEC Pres last year here in the PHX base. Petioners were all over the airport. Security checkpoints, elevators, bus stops and my favorite the elevator up to check in. Management knew and never said a word.

Did LA call tempe? or MF? hhhmmmm

Keep getting those signatures!

I agree with YOU! DONT STOP! Keep getting people to sign.
******************NEWS FLASH!!!**********************
Laura is out of the office again this week leaving the office with no one there! If you call the union office you might get on the vm...Hello, To everyone in council 70 YOU ALL HAVE used up your 39.00 this month so i am out flying my ass off on etb trips. Call back next month and maybe just maybe someone will be in the office to answer your call. Thanks you good bye"[/font]
Remember Terry, Mary Ellen and Michael have all been locked out of the office. But Terry is at the airport EVERYDAY answering questions and going to meetings UNPAID from AFA.[/font][/b]
Thanks for your Support HP_Jack

 

[dcflyguy]

Stop collecting signatures in PHL cause Tempe said so? Bologna! Hot dogs! Whatever. When we had a recall of our MEC Pres last year here in the PHX base. Petioners were all over the airport. Security checkpoints, elevators, bus stops and my favorite the elevator up to check in. Management knew and never said a word.

Did LA call tempe? or MF? hhhmmmm

Keep getting those signatures!

Heads up everyone there will be a website up and running this week with the charges posted and from there people can down load the petition and sign it. NOTHING IS GOING TO STOP US GETTING THIS DONE! KEEP UP THE WORK EVERYONE!
She will be GONE VERY soon!

 

[BoeingBoy]

As an employee of USAirways Group, you have an obligation at all times to promote the Company's interest.

Hmmmm, an interesting take on duties and responsibilities....

So a union officer/rep, being an employee, must promote the company's interests at all times. Seems like a perfect case of violating their DFR responsibilities since they're elected to promote their member's interests.

Does say volumns about what kind of union officer/rep you prefer, though.....

Jim