Please Keep This In Mind...

Al though most employees are upset the majority are rational. The type postings you see on here esp the last day full pay crowd, are the same exact people who posted the same exact thing in the last go around of cuts. Put it in perspective and i think it will b ecome clear. No one on this board including pitbull, doesnt speak for the majority. We all have our opinions, right or wrong , and we are entitled to them. As in with the last votes, that was proven.
 
BoeingBoy said:
uza,

IF you are at the level you intimate, you should take YOUR management team out of the cozy caccoon of CCY and smell the coffee. " Sure glad I wasn't mentioned! I am totally innocent!" sounds like the typical excuses. It's not YOUR fault, it's the drastic changes in the industry. It's not YOUR fault, it's the pesky unions. It's not YOUR fault, it's those work rules. It's not YOUR fault, it's the LCC's. It's not YOUR fault, it's fuel prices. Endless excuses while constantly pointing the finger of blame anywhere but at yourself and YOUR management team.

IF you are at the level you intimate, you and YOUR management team should look around the industry and observe what others are doing to adapt to the "new reality" - all with proportionately less concessions from their employees. It doesn't take a PHD (sic) to see that a simplified fare structure can increase revenue, that selling last-minute upgrades to F/C can increase revenue, that depeaking the hubs can increase efficiency and lower unit cost, that increasing A/C utilization can lower unit cost, etc. And that all can be done under current contracts.

If this were the recording industry, you and YOUR management team would be called "one hit wonders" since the only song you know is "More Concessions".

Jim
Bravo Jim!
 
MarkMyWords said:
Bravo Jim!
You noticed this pilot has already made it public knowledge that he doesn't care if we make it or not, he is ready. That is good for him, and to that I say Bravo.

What about the rest of you? Would you burn the place down?

MMW you know better, too bad you are caught up in the veneration of destruction that has been spun with manipulation by egotism.
 
uza, I am sure he "cares". He is just prepared and a such, manangement has no leverage over him. I have been working my plan "B" for one year and three months now. I would have preferred to remain at UAIR and fly jets for the remainder of my career; however, I have no faith in UAIR management so I have taken the risk and struck out on my own. What will U do if U fails and U have U all over your resume?
 
He "JIM" is history by his own words, why bother with him or piney, who wants playtime, piney is a loyal customer and not an employee who will be affected. I am only interested in those affected personally not customers or retires. Of course retires will be affected to some extent if this company ceases.

I really don't care what is said about me on here, that should be understood by now, it simply doesn't matter, means nothing.

You people on the other hand will have consequences to face given this attitude of destruction you are proudly clinging to in the name of pride, or ego. You will not save this industry by your silly protests, and will only bring yourselves further down in the process. Unless unemployment your goal, this is pointless.
 
uza said:
youngblood wrote:

We did twice and most people are now struggling.

DO NOT call my unwillingness to take more cuts egotistical! It's called survival.

“You are not making any sense. If you don’t want to help out, then you will be out, and your troubles will just be starting being unemployed in bad times. If that’s your choice, so be it, but don’t explain to me how not helping out will save your job, that is absurd.â€


DO NOT threaten me with outsourcing.

“It is not a threatâ€

Frankly, you can't scare me with that tactic because I'm already prepared.

“I am not out to scare employees. I am out to explain the facts. The fact is your irrational union leaders don’t have your personal interests in mind, but are misguiding you. Look at their self-serving actions thinking they have some kind of power. The only real power they have is to make their membership into job seekers. I am glad you are prepared; too bad most others are not for prepared for the realities facing them and their loved ones. Anger will only shorten you life, you must have also learned that talent from your union leader where anger rules and common sense is left behind.â€


Have Nice Calm Day
“I am not out to scare employees. I am out to explain the facts. The fact is your irrational union leaders don’t have your personal interests in mind, but are misguiding you. Look at their self-serving actions thinking they have some kind of power. The only real power they have is to make their membership into job seekers. I am glad you are prepared; too bad most others are not for prepared for the realities facing them and their loved ones. Anger will only shorten you life, you must have also learned that talent from your union leader where anger rules and common sense is left behind.â€
you claim to be out to explain facts......explain how you were on this board before saying we weren't going to outsource airbus 's' checks.
explain to us why the driving force behind additional concessions isn't to survive to fight another day but rather to get our costs to parallel LCC's so we can be sold down the pike.i'm now begining to see your concern for us employees.take the money and run
explain to us why we have continual disregard for negotiated CBA'S....
explain to us why we have continual management harassment in each labor group.
explain to us how we are expected to step up to the plate as you give out merit raises.
tell me its to keep quality people...i tell you its because they know a losing proposition when they see it...apparently you don't.
you show your true worth here as in the workplace by attacking those who resist your ongoing pilaging of our company.
UZA-take this to the bank...although a minority post here,it is just like word of mouth advertising....and i believe you are going to find more people aligning against your plan than will support it.
you have a great us airways day sir.
 
delldude said:
UZA-you should read the new policy regarding usage of company internet resources. ;)
I think you have more important issues to worry about.
 
uza said:
You people on the other hand will have consequences to face given this attitude of destruction you are proudly clinging to in the name of pride, or ego.
Apparently you didn't get the memo...if US Airways folds, you are unemployed too. Have you looked at the job market lately?
 
uza said:
MarkMyWords said:
Bravo Jim!
You noticed this pilot has already made it public knowledge that he doesn't care if we make it or not, he is ready. That is good for him, and to that I say Bravo.

What about the rest of you? Would you burn the place down?

MMW you know better, too bad you are caught up in the veneration of destruction that has been spun with manipulation by egotism.
UZA -

I was going to avoid taking issue with you because I felt that your postings on here purely self serving and totally lacking compassion. I will say this about my change of heart....

I was a die hard company man. I have defended Dave and his team many times over because I felt that he needed a chance to prove himself and his views for the direction of the company. I have also taken people like PitBull to task on many occassions for what I view as problems within the organization.

Where Dave and company have lost my support is in their ability to recognize the tremendous sacrifices that the employee groups gave to support the airlines emergence from bankruptcy. Dave can't put out a message the strokes the morale of the employees without adding a BUT to the sentence. Every weekly message is filled with doom and gloom with the threat of further reductions, concessions and job losses constantly in the background.

If I honetly felt that the company was doing everything in their power, utilizing every cost savings measure in every contract they signed, I would be behind Dave 100%. Instead, every contract that was signed is open for "interpretation" and is violated with no amount of explaination and total disregard to the employees effected. If any employee group were to violate the contracts the way the company has, would you have reacted any differently?

The employees are not the problem here. The people at the top of this tree do not lead by example, but by intimidation. If we were using our resouces to the best of their abilities, i would support them. If they had a business plan that was more then sticking it to the employees, I would support them. If every department was tasked with finding ways to save money and reduce costs, and those ideas were taken seriously, I would support them. If we had focus and direction, that was clearly laid out to every employee, I would support them. If employees were motivated, inspired and respected by their managers - all the way up to Dave, I would support them. How is it you expect any employee here to have the slightest amount of respect for anyone at the top of this tree, when there is no one at the top that respects them?

I, as many here, have made provisions for myself in the event my job is eliminated or the company folds. I have reduced all of my debt, sold my house and have my ducks in a row. You may ask why do I stay here.....I stay here because I love what I do, I love the people that I work with, I love the paycheck that I bring home, I love the customers that we serve. I will do what is reasonable to keep all that. If the expectations of Dave and Dave are unreasonable I will do what is necessary. Do I hold the same views as the hardline union people here? No. I will listen to what is being asked for, what the plan is, how it pertains to me and then determine if I can live with those concessions. You need to stop dictating what people should do and start respecting that every individual will vote or do what they feel is necessary for their own well being.
 

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