Nov/Dec 2013 Pilot Discussion
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USAirways East Pilots would not have agreed to any contract with the nicolau award. Nothing new since 2007, west pilots claim sneak attack, history shows consistency in the East pilots resolve.
[SIZE=large]MEC SPECIAL MEETING July 25, 2007[/SIZE]
[SIZE=large]RESOLUTIONS PASSED[/SIZE]
"AI 07-83 - Equivalent Contract Negotiations
WHEREAS Part 1, Section N., paragraph 1. of ALPA Merger Policy (Merging of Employment Agreements) provides, “In no event, except by mutual agreement of all parties, will the company be given the right to use the merged seniority list prior to the successful conclusion of the merged working agreement” (Negotiated Single Agreement), and
WHEREAS Section IV. of the Letter of Agreement dated September 23, 2005 between the Association, America West Holding Corporation, America West Airlines, Inc., US Airways Group, Inc., and US Airways, Inc. (the “Transition Agreement”), as approved by the America West and US Airways MECs, provides that management may not use an integrated pilot seniority list prior to separate membership ratification votes by the US Airways and America West pilot membership of a Negotiated Single Agreement, and
WHEREAS hundreds of US Airways pilots appeared in person at the Executive Council meeting May 21st, 2007 and thousands of US Airways pilots have reached out to their elected union officials, at the local and national level, to express their outrage at the unmerited windfalls provided to America West pilots, at the expense of the US Airways pilots, by the Nicolau Award, in clear violation of the provisions of ALPA Merger Policy, and
WHEREAS a majority of the US Airways pilots have contacted their elected representatives and have made it abundantly clear that no Negotiated Single Agreement that allows these windfalls to take effect will ever be ratified by the US Airways pilots, and
WHEREAS the Executive Council on July 19th, 2007 decided that our union’s resources should be devoted to bringing about practical results through agreements that may include umbrella agreements or multiple agreements, and
WHEREAS the US Airways MEC has been and continues to be willing to abide by the Executive Council resolutions of May 21st and July 19th, 2007 and engage in seeking practical solutions to the issues facing the US Airways and America West pilots, and
WHEREAS the Executive Council has established a committee called the “Rice Committee” chaired by First Vice President Paul Rice and including Executive Board member David Webb and Executive council member Ray Miller to work both with the US Airways MEC/JNC and the America West MEC/JNC to assist in finding practical solutions that promote mutual career protections and mutual success, with improved pay, benefits, work rules and job security for both US Airways and America West pilots, and
WHEREAS the US Airways MEC has discussed the Collective Bargaining Agreement options brought forward by the Rice Committee for consideration by the MECs,
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the US Airways MEC endorses the concept of equivalent contracts (separate contracts of comparable value for US Airways and America West pilots), with separate operations, and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that such separate operations are to be permanent in nature and include preemptive contract language to assure their continued application during any future merger involving both the US Airways and America West pilots, and
BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED that the US Airways MEC authorizes the US Airways members of the NC to pursue an equivalent contract utilizing all necessary ALPA resources, including the assistance of the Rice Committee.
Passes
AI 07-81 - Transition Agreement Dispute
WHEREAS there is a provision in the Transition Agreement to settle disputes
between US Airways Management and the Association, and
WHEREAS the AAA MEC has passed a resolution seeking to stop the
implementation of a single operation FAA certificate, and
WHEREAS dispute resolution language on this matter has been drafted by the
Representation department of ALPA National, and
WHEREAS the AWA MEC has not recognized that a dispute exists between the
Association and the Corporation, and refuses to address the dispute resolution language drafted by ALPA national,
WHEREAS the AWA MEC’s refusal to recognize that a dispute exists between the
Association and the corporation causes and constitutes a dispute between the two ALPA parties (AAA and AWA), and
WHEREAS the Executive Council of ALPA National is the governing body tasked
with settling disputes between the two ALPA parties should one arise during the life of the Transition Agreement, and
WHEREAS the AAA MEC is seeking resolution of the dispute between the two ALPA parties,
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the AAA MEC requests that the Executive Council rule on the dispute between the two ALPA parties in the matter of the filing
of a dispute against the Corporation to maintain separate operations as stipulated in the Transition Agreement, and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that upon resolution of the dispute between the two ALPA parties, if resolved as sought by the US Airways MEC, the Association will file the dispute resolution language drafted by the ALPA National Representation Department seeking to ensure that separate operations be maintained between the two ALPA parties, and
BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED that separate operations be maintained between the
two parties as prescribed in the Transition Agreement.
Motion Passes Unanimously
Phoenix
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Exactly.Claxon said:
USAirways asserts they are "neutral" with regard to the DFR and still assert that Silver can and should grant summary judgement in favor of their motion for Silver to establish a West representation for MB. And they do so in the course of a DFR lawsuit, where USAirways doesn't even assert there has been a breach of DFR, or harm. But they imply there will be a DFR harm in the future if the West doesn't have separate MB representation.
Inexplicably DUI didn't bother to negotiate that and have it enshrined in the MOU... maybe Silver dismissed DUI from the case too quickly.
Res Judicata
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The enormity of your staggering failures is starting to dawn on you isn't it. Funny how no Federal Judges along the way have viewed the situation as scabs like you JJ are so desperate for people to believe. You ratified a contract without amending the TA. You voted for the Nic. Best of luck funding your own LLC after USCABA is thrown out like an aborted fetus.end_of_alpa said:
Company has their choice. East pilots won the 9th and declaratory judgement. The west DFR 2 is not only unripe, but labor union vs Judge negotiating a contract for west pilots will not pass an appeals court approval.
An appeal from the west equals nothing, appeal from the East equals two plus years of court.
How much have you moved on the west seniority list since 2005? Your situation will not improve for years. Other airlines are hiring, but you tried that once before and were only able to obtain an america west pilot position. Angry f/o for life?Res Judicata said:
tony anger, west pilot hired during the scab Australia years, claims west pilots will never work with USAPA. How has that attitude been working out for you west pilot? (rhetorical question)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gAoEijahTE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gAoEijahTE
traderjake
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Claxon said:
I was wrong about Claxon, he posts articles that are only 6 years old.
Res Judicata
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I was told by scumanski...MY LAWYER that the MOU was entirely neutral regarding the Nic. Now he claims we waives our rights to a fair process. Why didn't he take the stand do you think?Phoenix said:Voted in the Nic...
In case you missed it Marty said that the MOU doesn't contain the Nic, but rest assured it does contain the word "nullity".
P.S. what does "nullity" mean to you?
P.P.S. How many numbers were you senior to yourself?
You pieces of schit have earned every bit of the misery that has been dumped on you. More to come as well. It's called "Karma".
Res Judicata said:
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