Nov/Dec 2013 Pilot Discussion

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Res Judicata said:
Wrong. You thought you could steal the careers of others to make up for your own failures. That's why you left ALPA.

It didn't work and it cost you dearly. Keep the USAPA Lanyard, when you figure out how much they've cost you, you'll need it to hang yourself.
"That's why you left ALPA."  "You'se", as per usual, have no idea what your ranting about...None.
 
"you'll need it to hang yourself." Seriously? Sigh!....Spare us all, little drama queen. ;)
 
Res Judicata said:
Wrong. You thought you could steal the careers of others to make up for your own failures. That's why you left ALPA.

It didn't work and it cost you dearly. Keep the USAPA Lanyard, when you figure out how much they've cost you, you'll need it to hang yourself.
 
 
Junior, the premise of a union is that pilots are dissatisfied and can thus be exploited by a select few that ingratiate themselves into "leadership" positions promising to alleviate the dissatisfaction.  
 
The "leaders" of Leonidas, LLC are more adept than USAPA leaders ever hoped to be.  An LLC is a for-profit organization.  Figure it out (unless of course you are one of the "leaders" here to promote a constant west pilot dissatisfaction :) )
 
Unions were divided when I got here, and they will be divided when I leave... and I don't have the stomach to "play" my fellow pilots for my own profits.  :D
 
nycbusdriver: Who cares why they quit.  For the life of me, I can't understand what they hope to accomplish by quitting.
Phoenix said:
 
 
Can't argue with that.  Counting ballots is the most non political position in the union. 
 Agreed gentlemen. I see no evident sense in that move.
 
EastUS1 said:
 
And...you pretend to "know this"....how?
 
Because I personally talked to Andy Hunt and Jay and I asked them to clarify the following statement as to exactly who they were referring when stating "BPR":
 
Unfortunately, recent actions by members of the BPR in knowingly disseminating false information to our pilots make it clear that the governing body lacks the integrity our pilots deserve. We refuse to be a part of any of that, and so we feel duty-bound to resign from the Ballot Certification Committee.
 
This is part of a response I got from Andy:  
 
What you probably don't know is that the BCC has no authority to but all the responsibility (sound familiar?) to run these ballots. It has proven to be very frustrating to say the least that one or another political faction (read Reps) wishes to influence the outcome every time! Jay, Wes and myself have simply had enough. The personal and professional attacks by certain individuals have gone too far too often. It's just not worth the time and sacrifice both we and our families make to put up with such petty crap.
 
Pull your head out of McKee's ass and start asking questions.
 
EastUS1 said:
nycbusdriver: Who cares why they quit.  For the life of me, I can't understand what they hope to accomplish by quitting.
 Agreed gentlemen. I see no evident sense in that move.
 
Because it sends a statement.  You're so damn obtuse.
 
dca319 said:
 
Because I personally talked to Andy Hunt and Jay and I asked them to clarify the following statement as to exactly who they were referring when stating "BPR":
 
Unfortunately, recent actions by members of the BPR in knowingly disseminating false information to our pilots make it clear that the governing body lacks the integrity our pilots deserve. We refuse to be a part of any of that, and so we feel duty-bound to resign from the Ballot Certification Committee.
 
This is part of a response I got from Andy:  
 
What you probably don't know is that the BCC has no authority to but all the responsibility (sound familiar?) to run these ballots. It has proven to be very frustrating to say the least that one or another political faction (read Reps) wishes to influence the outcome every time! Jay, Wes and myself have simply had enough. The personal and professional attacks by certain individuals have gone too far too often. It's just not worth the time and sacrifice both we and our families make to put up with such petty crap.
 
Pull your head out of McKee's ass and start asking questions.
 
So, exactly who were they referring to? You've provided no names...?  "Pull your head out of McKee's ass..."...? I didn't figure even "you'se" for being THAT truly stupid, or perhaps just willfully oblivious....both being typical "spartan" traits, I might add. ;)
 
dca319 said:
 
Because it sends a statement.  You're so damn obtuse.
 Perhaps to "you'se". It fails to register as any major quake, or even trembler, to many of us. I ask again, since all "spartan" bombast aside; you've provided no names: "So, exactly who were they referring to?"
 
Res Judicata said:
Thank the APA. Loudmouth fatass scabs like you have done nothing...and the CLT inbreds think they're going to gain control of your fake union at this late hour? Why? Not happy until every bodies careers become as devalued as your own?
You idiots don't have the very FIRST clue how to be a labor union. Be thankful the APA gifted you enough leverage to get off loa 93. You didn't have a say in the MOU, and no one is listening to USCABA now or ever.
No Recall!!
No Recall you say? Honestly Res? Exactly why the FBI was on your a$$ with those falsehoods. You make the polygraph spike in all venues. It is what you do.
 
EastUS1 said:
 
So, exactly who were they referring to? You've provided no names...?  "Pull your head out of McKee's ass..."...? I didn't figure even "you'se" for being THAT truly stupid, or perhaps just willfully oblivious....a typical "spartan" trait, I might add. ;)
Do try to put things together yourself.  You can do it!!  
 
EastUS1 said:
 Perhaps to "you'se". It fails to register as any major quake, or even trembler, to many of us. I ask again, since all "spartan" bombast aside; you've provided no names: "So, exactly who were they referring to?"
As previously stated:  obtuse.
 
dca319 said:
Do try to put things together yourself.  You can do it!!  
 
Sigh!...Just another dimwitted westie, who's purely incapable of forming so much as a coherent thought, much less cohesive argument of any kind, or even answering direct and simple questions....Typical. Why should I ever expect better from the likes of  "you'se"? ;)
 
For merely amusement's sake now, I'll ask again: "...all "spartan" bombast aside; you've provided no names: "So, exactly who were they referring to?" If "you'se" are truly just too plain stupid to understand the question...well...no harm, no foul, I suppose. :)
 
dca: " You're so damn obtuse." ..."As previously stated:  obtuse." Impress me with the grand depth of "you'se" magnificent..umm..."mind", widdle "spartan", and at least attempt to actually answer the frikkin' question, if possible. ;)
 
dca319 said:
 
Because it sends a statement.  You're so damn obtuse.
 
Yes.  The statement they sent to me is that they are quitters.  When the going gets tough, the BCC runs like hell.
 
They should have simply done their jobs and refused contact with the players and their politcs.  Just don't answer the phone, email or SMS until the results are in.  They should have simply put their fingers in their ears and chanted: "LALALALALALALALA" until January 8, and accepted no direction from anyone other than themselves.  
 
Maybe it would have gotten them fired (but I doubt it.)  But they could have then walked out the door instead of slinked.
 
EastUS1 said:
Sigh!...Just another dimwitted westie, who's purely incapable of forming so much as a coherent thought, much less cohesive argument of any kind, or even answering direct and simple questions....Typical. Why should I ever expect better from the likes of  "you'se"? ;)
 
For merely amusement's sake now, I'll ask again: "...all "spartan" bombast aside; you've provided no names: "So, exactly who were they referring to?" If "you'se" are truly just too plain stupid to understand the question...well...no harm, no foul, I suppose. :)
 
dca: " You're so damn obtuse." ..."As previously stated:  obtuse." Impress me with the grand depth of "you'se" magnificent..umm..."mind", widdle "spartan", and at least attempt to actually answer the frikkin' question, if possible. ;)
I see you've haven't lost the knack for typing paragraphs that say absolutely nothing. You truly are a half-wit.

Sigh.
 
nycbusdriver said:
Yes.  The statement they sent to me is that they are quitters.  When the going gets tough, the BCC runs like hell.
 
They should have simply done their jobs and refused contact with the players and their politcs.  Just don't answer the phone, email or SMS until the results are in.  They should have simply put their fingers in their ears and chanted: "LALALALALALALALA" until January 8, and accepted no direction from anyone other than themselves.  
 
Maybe it would have gotten them fired (but I doubt it.)  But they could have then walked out the door instead of slinked.
They did walk out the door you idiot. On their own terms.
 
dca319 said:
I see you've haven't lost the knack for typing paragraphs that say absolutely nothing. You truly are a half-wit.

Sigh.
 
Care to make even the most feeble attempt at salvaging your pathetic and untenable position here? ;) "and at least attempt to actually answer the frikkin' question, if possible"...?
 
Further evidencing the entire extent of your vast "intellect" fails to serve your purpose here. No matter, little "spartan". Thanks for the always dependable chuckles "you'se" sorts produce. :)
 
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