Nov/Dec 2013 Pilot Discussion

[Pi brat]

Sorry, couldn't resist.  Seriously, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all American employees.  Signing off for the season.
 
Bean

That's a good one Bean. Merry Christmas to you and yours. You are one of the west that I pay attention to(after LS). 🙂

 

[EastUS1]

Sent!!!

 
 Many thanks Brother. 🙂 Perhaps it's the Christmastime environment...but it's particularly troublesome to me to be now long "outta' the business" and be able to do nothing more than Pray and hope for the best for those still Serving....as in: WHY is my "baby" there instead of me?/etc. No matter, I suppose, as I don't possess the insane arrogance required to ever question His Will. May God Bless us all this Christmas, and allow us the good sense to rejoice in our incredible, constant bounty in life nonetheless.
 
Whew! Enough "drama". Off now to a Christmas event and momentarily, easier thoughts.
 
PS: You're lurking snap. Go ahead an go all "spartan" at "you'se" heroic and noble, "knightly", "patriot" pleasure....and even a Merry Christmas to you and yours.....pissant. 😉

 

[traderjake]

 
Go Cowboys beat the Eaglets take the NFC East!

 
Jerry's kids are hoping for a Christmas miracle.
 
God bless us, every one! 

 

[fatherabraham]

I don't care what you think.  And "Methinks" you cannot read.  The correct site, run by supporters, the one with picture of Steve and Gary on the the front page..is votenorecall.org. 
 
As many times as you want to misrepresent that fact I will be happy to correct you.  And, oh yeah, any "uninformed" pilot at this point deserves what he or she gets, especially one that come to this forum for "facts." 
 
How about some real dialog from you, instead of playground taunts?  Can you please rebut at least the logic in the recall of the Founder by selling him out to the West Class?  Can you please give me a rational argument for the return of the "roll call" vote, which by the way was NOT used in the BPR vote approving the MOU?   Maybe you can color your commentary with "shamefully incorrect / misinformation / blame transfer etc etc etc political attempt."  You probably won't, as your facts would of course just be ...."facts."
 
RR

RR,

Daunting challenge(s) from an " insider player " such as yourself to a measly peon like myself who represents majority folk in USAPA .

First off, let me sincerely thank you for the often great job you've done here at so cleverly correcting the westies.

In reply to above, I've pretty much shared all my original thoughts & opinions in
Post 2954 / 3008 on subject of GH and recall vote. Not real fond of repeating myself.

Therefore I will leave it up to the NINE reps to sell their case who currently happens to represent the majority to the tune of aprox 96% rank/file !
Methinks they are doing a better job and actually posses the " stones " to attribute names to their writings.

So, you seem to be asking an admitted outsider to join you in a debate on " facts " .
I made it clear in my 1st post in 6 months ( # 2954 ) that those " facts " you refer can be quite elusive at best. Am not gullible enuf to consider the USAPA publications as " fact " considering the current nine BPR accusations against GH who controls ALL publications at this point in time.

My avatar prompts me to post kinda like a characteristic written below:

"In situations where strife could have occurred and then escalated, Abraham seemed able to defuse them (cf. Gen. 13:1-13). There was one key trait in his character that caused him to be able to be such a peacemaker -- he regarded others better than self. This is a quality that the Christian is to possess today. Philippians 2:3-4 states, "Let nothing be done through selfish ambition or conceit, but in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself. Let each of you look out not only for his own in-terests, but also for the interests of others."

Methinks my avatar better represents a " superhero " .

In conclusion let me state you failed to simply answer yes or no to my question concerning
" joevotesno " and promptly turned to attack mode to divert from answer.
Obvious to all here it was not a reference to your adnauseam " votenorecall " post.

FA

 

[snapthis]

 
That's fine humor sir, and overly generous methinks.  My friends at American aren't especially eager to so much as have AWA "spartans" lick their shoe soles clean.

Meet the top contributors to the army who volunteered to keep USAPA under their soles, ie, my avatar.
  
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[nycbusdriver]

My opinion is that it was a mistake to not attend the meeting.   

 
I disagree.  USAPA needs to stand firm in its insistance that it is the ONLY legal bargaining agent for all USAirways pilots.  The company is simply causing mischief because it can continue to take advantage of the pilots.  USAPA attendance at such a meeting were illegal bargaining agents are given a voice might be construed as tacit approval of their presence.
 

 
The logical outcome would be a 3 way using the 3 sen. lists as they appear on December 9th.   During the 3 way we all know the west is going to try a land grab of AA widebodies, attrition, and capt. seats just like they have done for all this time.  Before its done we are going to have some on the west running around telling everybody how they "saved American"   The arrogant posting on the AA board a while back "Introducing AA to America west" thread shows that some over there already have that mentality towards this merger.    The AA folks were not amused.
 
 

 
I am not necessarily opposed to a three-way resolution to the SLI, nor even to allowing the westholes to have their own people at the table.  But those people DO NOT GET TO BE CHOSEN by AOL.  They need to be elected by the westhole class in a ballot sponsored by USAPA....and ONLY USAPA.  Just allowing a bunch of idiots who figured out how to start an LLC to suddenly take control on behalf of 1800 pilots is an invitation to legal hassles with many more DFRs to come.  What if the AOL Merger Weenies did something that a bunch of westholes didn't like?  Who is responsible?  They're an LLC, so the only recourse would be further lawsuits against USAPA, APA and the company, since suing an LLC means you might win a piece of paper (their corporation.)

 

[nycbusdriver]

Regarding the recall:
 
Am am emotionally inclined to throw Hummel out the door, and keep Bradford.
 
However, voting that way would simply make me feel a bit better in the short term, but the practicality of it is so counterproductive.  Hummel only has about a year in office left anyway before USAPA (mostly) dissolves.  Why boot him now and allow the westholes to make their mischief.  I will vote to keep everybody right where they are if only to deprive the desert morons of any chance to wrest any sort of control from USAPA.
 
I much prefer the devil I know.

 

[PullUp]

Regarding the recall:
 
Am am emotionally inclined to throw Hummel out the door, and keep Bradford.
 
However, voting that way would simply make me feel a bit better in the short term, but the practicality of it is so counterproductive.  Hummel only has about a year in office left anyway before USAPA (mostly) dissolves.  Why boot him now and allow the westholes to make their mischief.  I will vote to keep everybody right where they are if only to deprive the desert morons of any chance to wrest any sort of control from USAPA.
 
I much prefer the devil I know.

Amen, brother. If the westies want this to happen, I'm voting NO.
I think this is a play designed by the westies to circumvent Silver's eventual ruling. Basically, if you can't get it legally, then stage a coup and change the rules.
This is a coup, ladies and gents.

 

[A320 Driver]

 
I disagree.  USAPA needs to stand firm in its insistance that it is the ONLY legal bargaining agent for all USAirways pilots.  The company is simply causing mischief because it can continue to take advantage of the pilots.  USAPA attendance at such a meeting were illegal bargaining agents are given a voice might be construed as tacit approval of their presence.
 

Agreed. USAPA attended the meeting that counted. To the company, the meeting on the 20th seemed like the easiest way out. They wanted it and that alone is enough to be suspicious of it. This and the fact that the company is cherry picking the parts of the MOU they want to pay means business as usual.

 

[Freighterguynow]

.  What if the AOL Merger Weenies did something that a bunch of westholes didn't like?  Who is responsible?  They're an LLC, so the only recourse would be further lawsuits against USAPA, APA and the company, since suing an LLC means you might win a piece of paper (their corporation.)

Grievance already filed.

 

[nevergiveup]

Meet the top contributors to the army who volunteered to keep USAPA under their soles, ie, my avatar.
  
http://www.cactuspilotcontributors.com/
 
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I thought all of the west was on-board. Interesting!

 

[Piedmont1984]

Regarding the recall:
 
Am am emotionally inclined to throw Hummel out the door, and keep Bradford.
 
However, voting that way would simply make me feel a bit better in the short term, but the practicality of it is so counterproductive.  Hummel only has about a year in office left anyway before USAPA (mostly) dissolves.  Why boot him now and allow the westholes to make their mischief.  I will vote to keep everybody right where they are if only to deprive the desert morons of any chance to wrest any sort of control from USAPA.
 
I much prefer the devil I know.

Like you said, take the emotion out and there is only one rational decision. Voted No Cubed. I wonder who the reluctant mystery candidate for president will be if the recall succeeds as alluded to in the CLT update?

 

[snapthis]

I thought all of the west was on-board. Interesting!

The list was published in April. Many Silver and Bronze contributors have moved to the Titanium and Gold level.
 
Leonidas will be around long after USAPA is gone. So much about those predictions about a pending collapse, Marty's retirement and all.
 
It looks like the new year will bring in a few bonus checks and an expanding list.

 

[nycbusdriver]

This and the fact that the company is cherry picking the parts of the MOU they want to pay means business as usual.

 
...but be careful what you wish for.  Do you REALLY want to be paid EXACTLY the way AA pilots are paid right now?  I don't.  Of course I want their hourly pay rate, but I am quite content to keep getting paid the way we do now.

 

[nycbusdriver]

The list was published in April. Many Silver and Bronze contributors have moved to the Titanium and Gold level.
 
 

 
How much to get all the way to the coveted "5 Cubic Zirconia" level?