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flyingskier said:
That's funny Snap.. you can't fence what you don't have. In case you forgot, the west doesn't have any wide bodies.

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Integrity - Getting something that isn't yours, then giving it back to its rightful owner.
Yea it's funny isn't it. The planes don't belong to your union.
 
My integrity tells me that I'm going to take my position denied to me by USAPA's land grab.
 
That includes widebodies.
 
snapthis said:
Yea it's funny isn't it. The planes don't belong to your union.
 
My integrity tells me that I'm going to take my position denied to me by USAPA's land grab.
 
That includes widebodies.
You guys wanted separate status, have at it. How many west pilots are currently flying a widebody(airplane, not their significant other)?
 
Phoenix said:
 
 
What about your meeting yesterday?   
 
 
Res Judicata said:
Wouldn't you like to know.
 
 
Your good friend Claxon was kind enough to warn you when he asked rhetorical questions.  In the future you may wish to remember I am not so kind.  :lol:
 
snapthis said:
Yea it's funny isn't it. The planes don't belong to your union.
 
My integrity tells me that I'm going to take my position denied to me by USAPA's land grab.
 
That includes widebodies.
Wait a minute. Not long ago you were telling us you guys would never commute to PHL.
 
Res Judicata said:
In case you forgot, there was a merger years ago and we're one airline now after POR. I sure as he'll have wide body aircraft at my airline.
But not in the group you wanted separate status for. Be careful what you wish for.
 
We have been one airline for a while, but 2 pilot groups. That carried over to the MOU/MTA. Remember when Captain Gay asked Kirby if the Nic was implemented at POR?
 
Pi brat said:
You guys wanted separate status, have at it. How many west pilots are currently flying a widebody(airplane, not their significant other)?
Yep, can't have it both ways. Separate seat at the table = you bargain with what you bring: a couple beat up 75's and a bunch of group 2's. And the depressing brown of the desert.
Better prep that lawsuit for "Army of Leonidas" class representation. HA HA HA HA HA.
 
PullUp said:
Yep, can't have it both ways. Separate seat at the table = you bargain with what you bring: a couple beat up 75's and a bunch of group 2's. And the depressing brown of the desert.
And the 75 's pay group 2.
 
Claxon said:
Video of meeting.  Yes, that really is Doug in the blue jacket and shades.  Find Kirby and Isom too.  (Hint, Kirby likes to dress as a woman for Halloween)
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at196glHoEw
 
 
Kirby on the left.  Be thankful I didn't screen capture a full length pic with the purple tutu, tights, and high heels.   The Air Force Academy is attempting to scrub its records.  
 
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Phoenix said:
What about your meeting yesterday?
It did not go well according to the American guys. They got a very thorough brief from their legal team, and the APA has a good one.
 
Black Swan said:
It did not go well according to the American guys. They got a very thorough brief from their legal team, and the APA has a good one.
 
I am not a lawyer, but my free advice would be that anyone not designated as a party to the MOU, who none the less presented themselves for the purposes of exercising the agreed rights and responsibilities enumerated in the MOU, would not only expose themselves to a risk of conviction for fraud, but would be personally liable, even if they carried some fancy business card that said LLC on it.    
 
The individuals parading as MOU West Reps would be lucky to be charged with mere trespassing.... compared to what mess they could really get themselves into.  
 
Graceson said:
So will you actively campaign for a new candidate who then becomes the least of all evil? The least of your fears? The least of your trepidations?

Will you use the funds you've gathered to elect such a candidate? Will you put as much energy into a forceful turnout.

It usually seems such turnouts are larger when we're shooting elephants rather than pissants.
[SIZE=10.5pt]Absolutely I will. If necessary. Why would you think the candidate I choose, in fact work for, would be the "least of all evil?" Or were you going to simply tell me which one was the candidate to vote for, based on your judgment? You can rest assured that if Hummel is recalled there will be a candidate of my political leaning running to replace him. [/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10.5pt]I see the scenario you suggest, and it simply will not be allowed to happen. The malcontents running this recall will not get into office by simply being the only choice other than Ferguson. In light of our recent gains, this entire affair speaks to why this East pilot group has been losers for so long. Not getting "all" you want or even deserve should not continue to be a reason to get nothing. We have MUCH more than nothing now, ratified by 75% of us.[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10.5pt]A new election puts this apathetic East pilot group in a real pickle.  In this particular case, they will indeed reap what they deserve, piss ant elections be damned.[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10.5pt]RR[/SIZE]
 
Black Swan said:
Wait a minute. Not long ago you were telling us you guys would never commute to PHL.
I like the commute to Mallard Head on Lake Norman better than Philly.
 
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