Non-Rev Boarding

[john john]

Amen. There is nothing the company would like better than to outsource ALL ground handling to a contract company which would be responsible for wages and benefits. Hell, if they could get away with it, they would outsource the flight attendants.

http://6abc.com/business/is-your-job-on-the-endangered-list/192525/
IS YOUR JOB ON THE ENDANGERED LIST?
7. Flight Attendant
Decline: 7%

 

[jimntx]

As far as total employment across all airlines, I'm not surprised. Part of that is due to the fact that AA and other majors offered "early out" programs which got a number of super-senior f/as to retire. (I'm not sure from what. A lot of them hadn't flown a trip in years. )

However, at AA, they have trained and hired so many new f/as in the past year or so that I am off reserve as of this month. When I started in 2000, there were f/as at DFW with almost 25 years that were still having to serve reserve 3 times per year. I have 12.5 years! And, I'm not even on the backup list. The most senior f/a on the backup list is almost 1000 numbers junior to me!!!

 

[1AA]

Amen. There is nothing the company would like better than to outsource ALL ground handling to a contract company which would be responsible for wages and benefits. Hell, if they could get away with it, they would outsource the flight attendants.

Delta did it several years ago.

 

[LD3]

Delta did it several years ago.

Hold on, someone should be chiming in soon.....

 

[1AA]

Hold on, someone should be chiming in soon.....

Can I take a shot at it?
Alex I'll take WT for $1,000.

 

[usa1]

Company uses free flights to attract $8.00 an hour help. Government has been watching and wants to tax every trip they take.   

 

[bigjets]

As far as total employment across all airlines, I'm not surprised. Part of that is due to the fact that AA and other majors offered "early out" programs which got a number of super-senior f/as to retire. (I'm not sure from what. A lot of them hadn't flown a trip in years. )However, at AA, they have trained and hired so many new f/as in the past year or so that I am off reserve as of this month. When I started in 2000, there were f/as at DFW with almost 25 years that were still having to serve reserve 3 times per year. I have 12.5 years! And, I'm not even on the backup list. The most senior f/a on the backup list is almost 1000 numbers junior to me!!!

The FAs took the buy out because, the BK contract actually said you have to work a minimum amount of hours to be employed at AA, but coming out of BK that part of the contract was taken out. Probably one of the reasons why only 600 took the buyout coming out of BK.

Another reason to point to the fact that the TWU is bad, when the FAs can negotiate a better contract then the mechs with the same company even in BK.

 

[700UW]

DL has ramp in about 40 stations.

 

[bigjets]

Alaska airlines IAM represented Ramp workers were all replaced and are now outsourced, while the AMFA represented mechanics are one of the highest paid aircraft mechanics.

 

[700UW]

And AS lost the arbitration case and had to pay all the laidoff rampers at SEA, and that was only done at SEA.

 

[eolesen]

What exactly does that have to do with non-rev boarding?...

 

[700UW]

Alaska airlines IAM represented Ramp workers were all replaced and are now outsourced, while the AMFA represented mechanics are one of the highest paid aircraft mechanics.

 
 

What exactly does that have to do with non-rev boarding?...

Thats what, why didnt you call out the poster for posting what I replied too?

 

[jimntx]

Company uses free flights to attract $8.00 an hour help. Government has been watching and wants to tax every trip they take.

Nothing new. The tax laws draw a difference between non-rev travel by employees of the company and free flights given to contract workers who are not employees. Similar differences are drawn in other industries.

 

[DFWFSC]

A manager at DFW said one of the reasons AA downgraded the retiree's travel from D2 to D2R was they were seeing more and more retired folks using their travel benefits in conjunction with another job they got.  I guess they think the downgrade to D2R will slow them down or discourage it?

 

[nycbusdriver]

A manager at DFW said one of the reasons AA downgraded the retiree's travel from D2 to D2R was they were seeing more and more retired folks using their travel benefits in conjunction with another job they got.  I guess they think the downgrade to D2R will slow them down or discourage it?

 
Unless that other job was doing military service, isn't using the pass benefit that way (in the furtherance of another company) a primary method for losing that pass benefit permanently?